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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I'm old and I code for a living, I have maybe at most a dozen tabs open on any day. I can't imagine needing 80 but now I see why chrome has that new search tabs drop down.

On my main Firefox profile I'm rarely below 1000 tabs. I also use them as bookmarks and backlog, and every couple of months I scroll through the entire tab bar and close everything unimportant. The address bar also searches all open tabs and lets me jump to matches.

How messy is your bedroom?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #176

It would be really bad if everyone used Firefox - just as it would be very bad if everyone used Chrome (or even any other browser based on the same rendering engine). We all absolutely do benefit greatly from having multiple competing browsers and render engines - regardless of which one we individually prefer to use. Therefore I really don't understand the many, many, many "my-browser-is-better-than-yours-you-should…

Browser wars are almost as old as the internet. There was even a time when people would put little rectangle animated gifs at the bottom of their websites saying things like "Best viewed with Netscape!" or "MSIE SUX!" or "Best Viewed with MSIE!" and then after a while those evolved into memes and then they vanished. There would be flamewars on Usenet about which browser is better. It isn't just browsers. There's tabs…

It'll be more browser wars but be between 4 different Chromium browsers.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it. I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to have multiple tabs open that doesn't really have to do with "hoarding".

For games, I often have a bunch of wiki tabs open at the same time.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #186

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Same. Recently I tried Brave because of all the praise but turns out the browser can only display around 80 tabs on the tab bar and every further tab simply never shows up even if it's in the foreground. I've seen mobile browsers handle many tabs better. I'm staying with Firefox, though I think Brave is probably still a good recommendation for users that don't want to go through the effort of installing an ad blocker…

> though I think Brave is probably still a good recommendation for users that don't want to go through the effort of installing an ad blocker Is that really the only reason to install Brave? Starting to wonder if I should just set up a Firefox that bundles uBlock Origin by default with a brand new name.

Don't forget the "basic attention tokens" (are we still doing crypto?)

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

That's pretty much the reason for me as well. The day some other browser makes tree-style tabs, firefox will probably lose a user.

Tabs Outliner for chrome/edge is far superior than any other tab extension, and I've tried nearly all of them.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

Firefox's GC seems to be much slower than chromium at least as of 109. Certain Vue websites are rather prolific in their garbage generation and The performance difference between chromium and firefox is easily noticeable, particularly if you leave an SPA open for a while.

Can you point me at an example of this?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #187

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Firefox's GC seems to be much slower than chromium at least as of 109. Certain Vue websites are rather prolific in their garbage generation and The performance difference between chromium and firefox is easily noticeable, particularly if you leave an SPA open for a while.

We are on firefox 115 now mate.

That's why I qualified the version.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it. I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...

If I'm still thinking about something and there is a related tab for it, it stays open. When researching/debugging/developing things, I usually end up with tangents, tries, multiple things to read/try and so on, so naturally, having a tree to represent my thoughts and my tabs makes sense.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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That's pretty much the reason for me as well. The day some other browser makes tree-style tabs, firefox will probably lose a user.

Tabs Outliner for chrome/edge is far superior than any other tab extension, and I've tried nearly all of them.

Looks like a separate window, so clearly not superior to Tree Style Tabs in Firefox.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #201

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

> Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site devs, not on Firefox. I find this very common with Credit Card and Banking Sites. Very often they either refuse to log me in or log me out sooner than they should on Firefox, or certain pages within the site will just not load. I'm guessing they prioritize security, and only test this stuff in C…

I've had this happen and businesses have lost my business because of it.
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