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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #286

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Honestly you are the first person I’ve ever heard that prefers chromes tab system. Check out tree style tabs it’ll change your life. I hate chrome now solely due to it

I recently started using Sidebery over TST and found it much more customizable for how I use tabs. It's worth taking a look at if you haven't already.

Is there any kind of migration process from TST if I move to Sidebery? I don't want to lose my current tree structures in TST.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

The thing that I really like in Chrome (which I use for work) is Tab Groups. There is nothing like it for Firefox. Even the "Simple Tab Groups" extension, which is well liked, cannot do the simple "grouping" of tabs in a larger window - it simply hides all the tabs that are not in current use (which defeats the purpose of tab groups, I can just use windows for that). Another thing that Chrome has is the ability to na…

Firefox had them. In fact, it had them since version 4 [1]. Then Firefox got rid of them again [2]. For no clear reason. And then Chrome copied the idea. And that's just a messed up timeline of events.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-4-beta-updated-w...

[2] https://venturebeat.com/mobile/mozilla-is-removing-tab-group...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #81

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

Fx provided a decent enough performance boost with its builtin tracking blocker that more than made up for any difference in real world scenarios. …But I never switch away from Gecko since Fx v2.x.

What is Fx? An extension?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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The thing that I really like in Chrome (which I use for work) is Tab Groups. There is nothing like it for Firefox. Even the "Simple Tab Groups" extension, which is well liked, cannot do the simple "grouping" of tabs in a larger window - it simply hides all the tabs that are not in current use (which defeats the purpose of tab groups, I can just use windows for that). Another thing that Chrome has is the ability to na…

Firefox had them. In fact, it had them since version 4 [1]. Then Firefox got rid of them again [2]. For no clear reason. And then Chrome copied the idea. And that's just a messed up timeline of events. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-4-beta-updated-w... [2] https://venturebeat.com/mobile/mozilla-is-removing-tab-group...

It still lives on as an extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/panorama-view...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #272

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

> clearly offers superior functionality I think it's worth mentioning the caveat, that it doesn't natively support PWA in the same way WebKit browsers do. It has little to no support (depending on your definition of support).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-fire...

Works fine for me on Linux Mint 21.1

I also use Firefox for Android and that does natively support PWAs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Close them all today. It will feel weird for like 1 hour, but you will feel much better after.

>It will feel weird for like 1 hour, but you will feel much better after. Yeah, because he'll be back to up hundreds of tabs again.

An order of magnitude reduction in unnecessary bloat is fantastic

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #201

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> Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site devs, not on Firefox. I find this very common with Credit Card and Banking Sites. Very often they either refuse to log me in or log me out sooner than they should on Firefox, or certain pages within the site will just not load. I'm guessing they prioritize security, and only test this stuff in C…

I've had this happen and businesses have lost my business because of it.

Using Chrome to support small businesses seems reasonable to me. They might not have a big development budget to test their site on all browsers.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #201

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

> Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site devs, not on Firefox. I find this very common with Credit Card and Banking Sites. Very often they either refuse to log me in or log me out sooner than they should on Firefox, or certain pages within the site will just not load. I'm guessing they prioritize security, and only test this stuff in C…

The place I run into this the most is, strangely, chipotle.com. Still can't order online on Firefox.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#339

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

That is what always irks me when people (usually only on here) say FF should have stayed with xpi and their old architecture. Only after all those changes did FF finally become performant enough for me to use it again, before it was a slow drag to me.

And I know, people with limited resources would have had a different experience, I don't know, I never had RAM issues. With enough RAM, FF was noticably slower than chrome.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#340

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

The thing that I really like in Chrome (which I use for work) is Tab Groups. There is nothing like it for Firefox. Even the "Simple Tab Groups" extension, which is well liked, cannot do the simple "grouping" of tabs in a larger window - it simply hides all the tabs that are not in current use (which defeats the purpose of tab groups, I can just use windows for that). Another thing that Chrome has is the ability to na…

In Tree Style Tab you can create a tab group (which is basically a custom tab whose title you can rename, e.g. "Docs"), then move all tabs you want to group as one "inside" it. That makes all the tabs the children of the tab group. Now you have the best of both worlds: tab groups and tree-based tab structures.
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