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Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by taeric »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #73
Zelphyr wrote: post #32

I hate to go negative. I really do because, usually it doesn't improve the discourse whatsoever. However, I feel like it needs to be said: Microsoft makes bad products[1]! They're overpriced, insecure, slow (it's astounding to me how slow their web properties are), and hard to use. Easily some of the worst UI I've ever seen and, what's worse, they've been like that my entire career. They keep slapping lipstick on the…

> It saddens me to say, I don't know what the answer is. I think the answer is a company willing to put in the work to force GPU manufacturers to provide high quality hardware drivers for a commercial Linux Distro. I mean all out partnership with the various vendors. Then sell prebuilts, maybe someone like System76 has come close, or has the capacity to do so. The Linux issues for me always seem to be hardware specif…

I'm curious on the non-sequitur to GPU stuff? At large, running machine learning code has been easily doable in linux for a long time. Frustratingly hard, yes, but no harder than in Windows. Often more repeatable and cheaper to fan out to a fleet of machines, to boot.

Is there another aim of GPU that I'm ignoring?

Microsoft makes fine enterprise software, sadly. To know and believe that, though, you have to see what the alternatives are in the enterprise world. It is atrociously bad.

I do think Chromebooks are an interesting use case showing you don't need massive software. Schools have taken to those very well and are almost certainly competing with most enterprises for number of users and use cases.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by sundarurfriend »

dgoodell wrote: post #56

I work for NASA. Our budget is like $25B. We’re definitely inefficient and wasteful, but we still do a lot of new things. Just not nearly as much as we could. Microsoft’s operating budget was like $123B last year. There are bugs in office products that have been there for years What exactly are they doing with all that money?

Funding the current AI revolution, for example?

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/22/microsoft-invests-1-billio... https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/23/microsoft-invests-billions... https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-talks-invest-10...

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by bun_at_work »

taeric wrote: post #81
giancarlostoro wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It saddens me to say, I don't know what the answer is. I think the answer is a company willing to put in the work to force GPU manufacturers to provide high quality hardware drivers for a commercial Linux Distro. I mean all out partnership with the various vendors. Then sell prebuilts, maybe someone like System76 has come close, or has the capacity to do so. The Linux issues for me always seem to be hardware specif…

I'm curious on the non-sequitur to GPU stuff? At large, running machine learning code has been easily doable in linux for a long time. Frustratingly hard, yes, but no harder than in Windows. Often more repeatable and cheaper to fan out to a fleet of machines, to boot. Is there another aim of GPU that I'm ignoring? Microsoft makes fine enterprise software, sadly. To know and believe that, though, you have to see what…

I think it's because of game development. Many devs target Windows for DirectX, since it's easier and cheaper to target one platform, and Windows dominates desktops, so you won't get gamers to migrate without that support.

There are various ways to get Windows games working on Linux or Mac, but they aren't out of the box, which is significant enough to prevent wide scale adoption.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by michaelteter »

sysop073 wrote: post #14
michaelteter wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps preceding your list of related links you could state that the following is a list of (recent?) related HN submissions.

You thought perhaps they commented a list of random unrelated HN submissions?

The links are all just https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=########. It's obvious they refer to some content on HN, but it could be comments, replies to comments, etc.

By adding a small bit of human text, the human doesn't have to ponder the list and wonder what they will get if they click a link.

And if there were human text, someone arriving by way of the parent comment link would have an easy time understanding the context without having to scan a lot of characters and make assumptions.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by mistrial9 »

dgoodell wrote: post #56

I work for NASA. Our budget is like $25B. We’re definitely inefficient and wasteful, but we still do a lot of new things. Just not nearly as much as we could. Microsoft’s operating budget was like $123B last year. There are bugs in office products that have been there for years What exactly are they doing with all that money?

you the user are not the customer, management and legal are the customer. You the user, are last, and least, in the priorities.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by taeric »

bun_at_work wrote: post #83
taeric wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious on the non-sequitur to GPU stuff? At large, running machine learning code has been easily doable in linux for a long time. Frustratingly hard, yes, but no harder than in Windows. Often more repeatable and cheaper to fan out to a fleet of machines, to boot. Is there another aim of GPU that I'm ignoring? Microsoft makes fine enterprise software, sadly. To know and believe that, though, you have to see what…

I think it's because of game development. Many devs target Windows for DirectX, since it's easier and cheaper to target one platform, and Windows dominates desktops, so you won't get gamers to migrate without that support. There are various ways to get Windows games working on Linux or Mac, but they aren't out of the box, which is significant enough to prevent wide scale adoption.

Steam has done an amazing job at attacking this. Though, large studios don't target linux largely because they have very little financial incentive to do so.

And it is more than installed userbase, which is very real. For the major distribution targets, the devkits have a ton of resources poured into them that major studios can't ignore.

That said, still feels like a non-sequitur? I can't imagine "gaming as a target" is a concern for cloud customers. Certainly not the government?

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by yoyohello13 »

kingrazor wrote: post #51
orangepurple wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux on the desktop is here. Go all-in on KDE. Everything is seamless and just works.

My experiences with Linux have been anything but seamless.

Similar to my experience with Windows TBH.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by lostmsu »

_8j50 wrote: post #75
MrDresden wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After spending 5 years of corporate work having to wrestle with Azure (in a ci/cd capacity) I would never recommend Microsoft's cloud offerings to anyone. Problem is that there is no other provider I would rather recommend. They are all bad in one way or another.

The big red issue with MS is they elaborately make it very difficult to integrate outside their ecosystem and they love holding customers hostage to ridiculous restrictions, but also Azure is very difficult to centrally manage things for all subscriptions. Others are as well but not as much. I actually like the azure UI and CLI as well as many if their offerings, but it's so difficult to piece together a bigger pictu…

Yeah, that Entra ID was the biggest "why?" moment I had in years. Seeing the new name no better or even worse than the old one I can already imagine the pain of renaming packages, namespaces, fixing documentation etc. Probably the most expensive marketing campaign with 0 gain I am aware of.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by ourmandave »

_8j50 wrote: post #75
MrDresden wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After spending 5 years of corporate work having to wrestle with Azure (in a ci/cd capacity) I would never recommend Microsoft's cloud offerings to anyone. Problem is that there is no other provider I would rather recommend. They are all bad in one way or another.

The big red issue with MS is they elaborately make it very difficult to integrate outside their ecosystem and they love holding customers hostage to ridiculous restrictions, but also Azure is very difficult to centrally manage things for all subscriptions. Others are as well but not as much. I actually like the azure UI and CLI as well as many if their offerings, but it's so difficult to piece together a bigger pictu…

Entra ID. As someone trying to get up to speed on Azure AD, suddenly all the recent tutorials I've watched are out of date. Very frustrating.

Same story when they moved to MSAL a few years ago.

Re: Microsoft lost its keys, and the government got hacked

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Post by AtNightWeCode »

victor106 wrote: post #22

One of the reasons why we moved away from using Microsoft products for our identity management to Okta. Not that they are bad products per se, but as many organizations use Microsoft products they are prime targets for too many hackers and it’s hard going to bed thinking that your identity info might be hacked someday and/or not knowing if it will be. The surface area that Azure/Microsoft have is just too large for i…

We use MS for some stuff and did use Okta for others. But... Okta fkd up and can never be used in any enterprise today. We migrated from it. Everybody should. Now we use MS and Google. Okta is probably the most over-priced service in history of CS especially considering the poor sec design. They do however solve the US-Franchise-Corp bs that I guess it was designed for.
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