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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by kevinlinxc »

generalizations wrote: post #222
beltsazar wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

That's pretty much the reason for me as well. The day some other browser makes tree-style tabs, firefox will probably lose a user.

Longtime ff user, I use "Tab Groups Extension" for Chrome at work where ff is not allowed

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by NavinF »

andybak wrote: post #224
NavinF wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome already does that by default: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/chrome-110-will-auto...

That seems like a good way to lose work if you're not careful. Although I would also argue that any well-designed web app should be able to handle this gracefully so maybe it will lead to better web apps. Infinite scroll is an especially bad offender here. If I'm 50 screens down on an infinite scroll that is work and a page refresh losing my place should be treated as a data-loss bug. (an even better idea is not to u…

I've never lost any unfinished messages due to this. I'm pretty sure Chrome prioritizes tabs where you've typed in text. Link in that other comment suggests that Firefox does something similar: "This is a smart process that avoids unloading tabs that are playing media, using Picture-in-Picture, or WebRTC. For more technical information, see this blog post"

And yeah fuck infinite scroll. I usually interact with such sites via their API or data export. Eg searching my YouTube Likes playlist is impossible on the web because I'd have to spend an hour scrolling before I can Ctrl+F

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by [deleted] »

pokeymcsnatch wrote: post #41
dherikb wrote: post #29

I'm just waiting for the vertical tabs support to give a new chance for Firefox.

Eh? Firefox vertical tab support is much better than Chromium's in my experience. The chrome addons I've seen are hacky and clunky. It doesn't seem like chrome UI has nearly the same modifiability as firefox. Edit: I use the Tree Style Tabs add on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by adverbly »

throwaway104782 wrote: post #150

You'll pry the Firefox developer tools and container tabs from my cold dead hands. It would have to be significantly slower for me to switch off of it.

Interesting. I actually switch to Chrome specifically if I need to use the developer tools. What do you prefer about the Firefox version?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by zamadatix »

p-e-w wrote: post #6

That chart suggests massive improvements since the beginning of this year. Can anyone explain how this was achieved? What precisely has changed?

You can click the dots and get a link to what was changed in that commit. e.g. in the sudden bump after April there is a 4 part cache related patch linking to the issue tracking ID which describes (in human terms) additional jit caching mechanisms.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by akaij »

seapat wrote: post #85
wintermutestwin wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

I use Sidebery, with some modifications from https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/wiki/Options

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by mortalkastor »

beltsazar wrote: post #214
seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

I switched to Orion[0] as a test, discovered the awesomeness of superbly integrated, native, tree style tabs, and now I'm stuck with this browser where sites I need for work are half broken. I tried Firefox with Tree Style Tab extension, but it's not nearly as good :(

[0] https://browser.kagi.com

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by Scarbutt »

wackget wrote: post #72
javajosh wrote: post #50

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

What do you find lacking in Firefox dev tools? For me I actually prefer them to Chrome.

Mozilla fired the dev tools team, so features get in more slowly compared to Chrome.
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