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How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by tshaddox »

markdown wrote: post #36
waiseristy wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can do the job of a $50,000 pickup using a machine that is half the size of a Honda Civic No you can’t

For what the average person uses their $50k pickup for, you most certainly can. Do you really imagine most pickup trucks in the US are hauling bricks on a dirt road up the side of mountains?

No, I imagine the average person in the U.S. is using their truck to drive to and from their office job and taking their kids to and from school. And for that these tiny trucks obviously would not work.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by orangepurple »

rootusrootus wrote: post #60
waiseristy wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Break the cycle how? Every time one of these threads come up I suggest buying a domestic full size 90’s truck instead and nobody gives a shit. The only things that gain traction in these threads is people shitting on their cultural enemies. Because Truck People bad!! Maybe you can help break the cycle by looking at the huge used truck market we already have

> Truck People bad!! One thing that I try to remind people of is that pickup trucks are the best selling vehicles in the US because the approximate definition of 'Truck People' is everyone .

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Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by tshaddox »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #50
manuelabeledo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are bigger because they need to house 200HP+ engines, which are, in most cases, unnecessary.

Cars and trucks 25 years ago had 200HP+ engines with much smaller bodies.

Also automobile engines tend to have vastly more horsepower for their size now than they did 25 years ago.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by brigade »

walrus01 wrote: post #79
rootusrootus wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason given is that they are not manufactured for US highways. Which may be a roundabout way of saying they aren't capable of going highway speeds.

This seems like a weird way of US states attempting to enforce their own local interpretation of federal laws and not laws that actually exist as state code. Anything that's over 25 years old is specifically exempt from federal FMVSS. If it's under 25 years old you can't legally import it anyways for use on US roads (with title, etc). People do import https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Motor_Vehicle_Safety_S... go…

States are not required to register cars just because the federal government allows them to be imported or sold. They can add requirements consistent with their own laws, as California infamously does causing 49-state cars and parts.

Whether categorically blocking kei car registrations is consistent with the laws of some of the states doing it is a question in some ongoing lawsuits, though.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by bdowling »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #55
avidiax wrote: post #12

The difficulties inherent in this and the simplicity of the product itself make me wonder if there's some car equivalent of the "80% lower" of the weapons industry. Some kind of partially assembled new Kei truck that counts as "car parts" during import, and can then be assembled to create a "kit car". The kit car process is almost equally onerous, but at least you could get a new car on the other end.

If assembling your own car in the US was as easy as assembling a gun, we'd all be assembling cars on our sixteenth birthday. We have the right to own a gun, but in most of the US owning a car is a necessity. There is some route available in most states but it's incredibly cumbersome compared to something like making your own gun.

If cars had been as popular as guns when the U.S. Bill of Rights was written, then such a right might have been included.

Hypothetically, "Motorized transportation, being necessary to the mobility of a free State, the right of the people to keep and drive automobiles shall not be infringed."

Imagine the vehicles we would have. For one thing, the impossible-to-meet CAFE standards, which make it economically infeasible to sell compact pickup trucks in the U.S., would probably have been declared unconstitutional. On the other hand, laws requiring seatbelts and airbags probably would have also been unconstitutional.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by oblio »

rootusrootus wrote: post #58
waiseristy wrote: post #24

These HN threads about trucks are amazing. It’s like watching the same movie over and over again * Kei trucks are the coolest. Big gubment is making it so we can’t register them due to protectionism! * Chicken tax chicken tax chicken tax * Big trucks cause more crashes because reasons! * Trucks are just lifestyle vehicles and nobody actually needs or uses them Over and over and over again

Don't forget the small penis accusation. I have an F250, which I drive about 2000 miles a year, almost 100% of the time it has a >30ft trailer behind it. But that one time that the stars align and I need it for a grocery trip, a bunch of people are thinking "see, that guy doesn't need a truck" and it reinforces whatever internal monologue they have going. Meanwhile, approximately everyone here routinely drives alone…

Just curious, what so you do for a living? Or what's your hobby?

Isn't the F250 a huge vehicle and that trailer seems huge, is it a boat?

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by avar »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #66
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cars and trucks 25 years ago had 200HP+ engines with much smaller bodies.

Cars nowadays are larger for improved comfort, not because of safety features. Larger cars aren't inherently safer. Modern safety features, such as airbags, crumple zones, etc., have been around for over twenty years now, but cars have gotten larger. Regardless, the comparison was between Kei trucks and pickup trucks.

Cars are in fact larger partially due to advanced safety features, in particular doors, pillars etc. have gotten a lot thicker over the last 25 years.

> Larger cars aren't inherently safer.

Yes they are, you're probably better off in a crash without a seatbelt in a bus than in the highly safety rated mini the bus crashes into. Newton matters.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by oblio »

orangepurple wrote: post #82
rootusrootus wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Truck People bad!! One thing that I try to remind people of is that pickup trucks are the best selling vehicles in the US because the approximate definition of 'Truck People' is everyone .

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1. They're probably right.

2. Why do you care? They're obviously losing in the US. They've been losing for 30+ years.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by bagels »

greggsy wrote: post #15
rootusrootus wrote: post #11

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In Oregon, Kei cars are specifically illegal, they cannot be titled or registered. Other states are following a similar path so definitely make sure you can title it before you buy it.

Is that for safety or market protection reasons?

Those as well as emissions reasons.

Re: How to register a Kei truck in Pennsylvania

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Post by GuardianCaveman »

waiseristy wrote: post #24

These HN threads about trucks are amazing. It’s like watching the same movie over and over again * Kei trucks are the coolest. Big gubment is making it so we can’t register them due to protectionism! * Chicken tax chicken tax chicken tax * Big trucks cause more crashes because reasons! * Trucks are just lifestyle vehicles and nobody actually needs or uses them Over and over and over again

You forgot the inevitable post by waiseristy mocking people who like these trucks and grouping everyone into single category of idiots.
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