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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by dale_glass »

rajamaka wrote: post #43
whatshisface wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You only need to create an account to post... have you ever looked at a post on Lemmy?

Maybe I'm a better representation of the more casual user, but I googled Lemmy and saw words like "federation" "decentralized" "start server" which are all concepts that are like 50 IQ points more than I generally assign to my Reddit user experience. I just went back to Reddit.

"decentralized" just means "there's no center, no lemmy.com that's the ultimate authority".

"federated" means "servers talk to each other".

So, like email. There's only one Reddit, but lots of places where you can get a mail account.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by ssivark »

rakoo wrote: post #179
justaj wrote: post #143

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Example: Right now you have a bunch of /r/linux lemmy subreddits with their own posts and threads that are independent of each other. You can make a thread on /r/linux on the lemmy.example.com instance and will not appear at /r/linux on lemmy.example.net This kind of fragmentation is pretty bad in terms of UX.

If I want to read information about linux I need to follow HN, lobste.rs, LWN, and maybe other sites. All of them independent. All of them with different conversations. All of them with different accounts, meaning that many identities. The fediverse is not like that: with a single account you can subscribe to all discussions, participate anywhere. Fragmentation is only when you don't participate: once in, all discuss…

Can you, for example, subscribe to /r/linux on “all” Lemmy servers?

Likewise, can you have a reasonable expectation that others would do the same — so it doesn’t matter which server you post your questions on?

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by flangola7 »

grishka wrote: post #82
cratermoon wrote: post #77

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This is why I get paid big bucks to investigate and remediate security problems in applications and systems.

It is technically impossible to embed a "secret" into something you allow everyone to download, and expect it to stay secret forever. This is called security through obscurity and it isn't real security.

This is in-fact the precise use case of secure enclave remote attestation. Maybe the GCHQ will be able to run their own Reddit clients, but the average person or even experienced hacker will not.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by rakoo »

ssivark wrote: post #192
rakoo wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I want to read information about linux I need to follow HN, lobste.rs, LWN, and maybe other sites. All of them independent. All of them with different conversations. All of them with different accounts, meaning that many identities. The fediverse is not like that: with a single account you can subscribe to all discussions, participate anywhere. Fragmentation is only when you don't participate: once in, all discuss…

Can you, for example, subscribe to /r/linux on “all” Lemmy servers? Likewise, can you have a reasonable expectation that others would do the same — so it doesn’t matter which server you post your questions on?

> Can you, for example, subscribe to /r/linux on “all” Lemmy servers?

Yes, by design. You do have to search for all that exist, but you can follow them all from your own instance, provided your instance and the remote instance allow federation.

> Likewise, can you have a reasonable expectation that others would do the same — so it doesn’t matter which server you post your questions on?

I don't know yet the usages on the Threadiverse, but it is expected that people at least know the multiple communities that exist. The discussion about merging happens constantly, with pros and cons, and no easy decision for anyone

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by blablabla123 »

neurostimulant wrote: post #129
grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

Why waste energy building tools to support a company that actively hostile to their own users. Might as well spend the energy building for something else, e.g. to support fediverse, which in the last few weeks got a surge of new apps and tools made by developers abandoning reddit.

At the time I still had the habit to never use my real name, email or address. (Well I was still going to school/studying anyway) I think the assumption was that services were simply there for the creator's benefit. Maybe it's good to remind oneself that a service that is given for free always has a catch unless it's from a non-profit.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by flangola7 »

charcircuit wrote: post #35
flangola7 wrote: post #31

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Why do processors care? Why does it matter if the domain is pornhub.com or reddit.com?

Most notably higher chargeback rates

Why are chargebacks higher?

Why can't that just be accounted for in the processor's rates?

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by dclowd9901 »

Gareth321 wrote: post #91
dclowd9901 wrote: post #47

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I’ve only used their app? Why is it so “crap” in your opinion?

The common complaints are: * Low information density, even on the “classic” setting. * Auto-play videos which cannot be disabled. Only auto-play on the feed can be disabled. * A terrible video player. * Ads. * Lack of basic QOL features like swipe to upvote/save. * A terrible navigation bar at the bottom, suggesting users performs activities Reddit wants, rather than activities common for the user. In general, the ap…

Not simping for Reddit (surely they don’t need it), but I think you’re over blowing the negatives in this list.

- not sure what you mean by information density. I’m not sure how much denser information could be without making the font smaller

- auto play videos can absolutely be disabled (even on ads)

- video player seems to work fine to me?

- ads are part of their revenue stream. And as far as ads go, they’re not even intrusive or annoying. If ads keep the site going, I’m happy to have them

- swipe to vote would be nice, but Pushing the vote button really isn’t torturous

- I only use the notifications button on the bottom and it’s right there, so not sure what the issue is.

Maybe the app was a lot more terrible when you last used it but I don’t think it’s as bad as you think it is.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by Marsymars »

esperent wrote: post #153
lapinot wrote: post #139

This is a particular teddit instance shutting down, not teddit the software project. Stuff is moving a lot currently and there is a bumpy road ahead, but there are several courses of action already being mapped out (scraping html, r-e the private gql api, a setting for operators to put some auth token, ..). https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit/issues/836 https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit/issues/400

However all of the instances I know of have been rate limited to the point of uselessness over the past few days.

I get all my value of teddit from a self-hosted instance - I think there remains a lot of value in these types of alternative front-ends even if they’re rate-limited to what a single residential IP would normally be rate limited to and public instances aren’t possible.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by piaste »

grishka wrote: post #186
greyface- wrote: post #45

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There didn't use to be any rules to play by. Official "front door" APIs are a modern phenomenon. They started being offered, and rugpulls were rare, so we got complacent and started using them rather than reverse engineering first-party APIs.

In the one non-open-source company I worked at, the first-party API was an extension of the public API. Some methods took additional internal-only parameters if you were using one of the official app IDs, for example. Some returned additional fields in responses. A bunch of additional internal-only methods also became available. I mean, if you have a public API, it makes sense, engineering-wise, to build your interna…

It's a bit more nuanced than that. Breaking changes are a lot harder once you have third-party clients, and redesigns are even harder.

So, for example, if those clients have only a fraction of the features of your internal clients, it may make sense to relegate them to a separate, stable backend service while you work on your internal one. But if there's just a couple of internal methods and everything else has to be public, it probably makes sense to have a single backend.

There's a lot of in-between cases, and that's where an engineering architect shows his skills in choosing the right approach.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by parineum »

philipov wrote: post #170
jalapenos wrote: post #134

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Exactly this. I used to browse Reddit everyday, using one of these third-party apps (the official app and website being close to unusable). When that app shut down, it just felt natural to leave Reddit behind. I opened an account on Twitter instead, having never used it before. The leadership of Reddit always seem to have been hated by the users, but I feel this might be the final straw that sends it the way of Digg…

Twitter is not the ship to be jumping to now, though. It's also on fire.

The demise of Twitter is greatly exaggerated.
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