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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by rakoo »

p-e-w wrote: post #79
chongli wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a winning instance That would defeat the purpose. Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. A winning instance would concentrate power in the hands of one admin. We don’t want that!

> Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. No, that's just a marketing lie. The biggest instances have politically-charged "codes of conduct" that other instances are forced to adopt or be defederated. IIRC, some instances even require those rules to be applied transitively, that is, they will defederate from your instance unless you enforce their rules on all instances that you federate…

Everything is politically-charged. Everything has a bias. It's a lie to make you think all opinions can happily be exchanged on a forum with everyone.

The fediverse allows you to be connected to whomever you want, and if they're part of an instance whose rules don't agree with you, then those persons also don't agree with you; why should they be subjected to what you want to say ?

Join the fediverse by building your own instance, the more instances the stronger the network. But don't expect everyone to be willing to talk with you, that's not how societies work.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by superhumanuser »

I haven't used Reddit since RIF shut down.

I admit I used to spend hours a day on Reddit. Searching for info, random browsing, gaming advice, etc.

I've got all that time back. I am pleasantly surprised that I don't miss it.

I thought I'd feel something, surely. I thought I had a relationship with the content. I don't. I didn't.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by boesboes »

romwell wrote: post #137
ParetoOptimal wrote: post #102

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Try this, I find it much closer: https://wefwef.app/ I think the client makes all the difference.

If it doesn't look and work like https://old.reddit.com - it isn't reddit. This includes the "new" (aka default) reddit website for me.

Works well, looks good, but the comment section makes me sad. It's like a weird mix of reddit, hackernews and linkedin comments.

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Post by dvngnt_ »

romwell wrote: post #137
ParetoOptimal wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try this, I find it much closer: https://wefwef.app/ I think the client makes all the difference.

If it doesn't look and work like https://old.reddit.com - it isn't reddit. This includes the "new" (aka default) reddit website for me.

https://mlmym.org/Lemmy.world/

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Post by grishka »

greyface- wrote: post #45
grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

There didn't use to be any rules to play by. Official "front door" APIs are a modern phenomenon. They started being offered, and rugpulls were rare, so we got complacent and started using them rather than reverse engineering first-party APIs.

In the one non-open-source company I worked at, the first-party API was an extension of the public API. Some methods took additional internal-only parameters if you were using one of the official app IDs, for example. Some returned additional fields in responses. A bunch of additional internal-only methods also became available.

I mean, if you have a public API, it makes sense, engineering-wise, to build your internal API on top of that, doesn't it? But apparently not everyone does it like this.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by grokas »

superhumanuser wrote: post #182

I haven't used Reddit since RIF shut down. I admit I used to spend hours a day on Reddit. Searching for info, random browsing, gaming advice, etc. I've got all that time back. I am pleasantly surprised that I don't miss it. I thought I'd feel something, surely. I thought I had a relationship with the content. I don't. I didn't.

I am in this boat. Though my phone usage is still there, I'm spending more time on other apps to get the same brain-break, entertainment, or distraction. Reading articles here or following other news sources straight from their sites instead of having a handy subreddit that aggregates them all (example - following Formula1 news).

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by carlosjobim »

p-e-w wrote: post #79
chongli wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a winning instance That would defeat the purpose. Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. A winning instance would concentrate power in the hands of one admin. We don’t want that!

> Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. No, that's just a marketing lie. The biggest instances have politically-charged "codes of conduct" that other instances are forced to adopt or be defederated. IIRC, some instances even require those rules to be applied transitively, that is, they will defederate from your instance unless you enforce their rules on all instances that you federate…

> I'm honestly astonished to see how many smart folks are falling for their lies

The smartest people will always fall for the most blatant lies and false ideologies. That's because it's a tantalizing challenge for their intellect, to try their hardest to twist logic and words to fit with the lies. Then they derive evil pleasure for making less sophisticated people believe their lies, or even fall so far down the hole that they start believing the lies themselves. Normal people usually just call bullshit and move on with their lives when some false ideology pops up.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #155
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #75

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> That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Good. Let the eternal September remain on Reddit. The rest of us can go back to the roots of what keeps online communities from becoming cesspools like Reddit and Twitter.

And how will we do that? Where will we go?

Wherever we want. There are options, if you don't let the media sell you the narrative that anything that's isn't as big as Twitter was at its peak is a failure.

The lessons I've taken away are that it's dangerous to get too invested in any one network, and when network effects get too big they do more harm than good.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by mplewis »

grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

Reddit resents its users. We’ve been unpaid moderation staff for the life of the website and admins don’t give us the tools we need to do a good job for free. Good riddance.
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