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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by eterm »

water554 wrote: post #92
grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

More like 20-25 years ago

Indeed, for the UK at least, the ICQ peak was 98-99 wasn't it?

MSN messenger quickly took over after it was released in '99.

I remember hearing at the time that ICQ remained popular in Russia and other Eastern European countries for much longer than it did in Western Europe though.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by mike_hock »

jalapenos wrote: post #134
neurostimulant wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why waste energy building tools to support a company that actively hostile to their own users. Might as well spend the energy building for something else, e.g. to support fediverse, which in the last few weeks got a surge of new apps and tools made by developers abandoning reddit.

Exactly this. I used to browse Reddit everyday, using one of these third-party apps (the official app and website being close to unusable). When that app shut down, it just felt natural to leave Reddit behind. I opened an account on Twitter instead, having never used it before. The leadership of Reddit always seem to have been hated by the users, but I feel this might be the final straw that sends it the way of Digg…

About time it kicks the bucket.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by esperent »

lapinot wrote: post #139

This is a particular teddit instance shutting down, not teddit the software project. Stuff is moving a lot currently and there is a bumpy road ahead, but there are several courses of action already being mapped out (scraping html, r-e the private gql api, a setting for operators to put some auth token, ..). https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit/issues/836 https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit/issues/400

However all of the instances I know of have been rate limited to the point of uselessness over the past few days.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by AlecSchueler »

veave wrote: post #150
marcosdumay wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> politically-charged "codes of conduct" I wonder what are you calling "politically-charged code of conduct here". Do you have an example? Are you talking about that one single instance that became famous for having a strict code of conduct?

I'm not accusing you of this, but this argument sounds like the usual "my set of rules is not politically charged, they are just common sense!", which is always bollocks.

Do you feel that is more true in their comment than the one they were replying to, which characterised the code of conduct as politically charged in the first place without clarifying what they meant by it?

The question in response seemed like open curiosity.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by AlecSchueler »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #75
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #15

> Lemmy is the New Reddit I hope so, but we need a winning instance first. When you search for Lemmy right now you're sent to a page that begins with "Join a Server... Run a Server". That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Lemmy.world seemed to be winning the SEO battles in my Google search. Is that a good one? Edit: Sorry for changing my entire post; I had incomplete information about Lemmy at the t…

> That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Good. Let the eternal September remain on Reddit. The rest of us can go back to the roots of what keeps online communities from becoming cesspools like Reddit and Twitter.

And how will we do that? Where will we go?

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by veave »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #154
veave wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not accusing you of this, but this argument sounds like the usual "my set of rules is not politically charged, they are just common sense!", which is always bollocks.

Do you feel that is more true in their comment than the one they were replying to, which characterised the code of conduct as politically charged in the first place without clarifying what they meant by it? The question in response seemed like open curiosity.

I admit I haven't looked at Lemmy's CoC, but I have looked at Mastodon's CoC, I imagine it's practically the same, and yes, it's politically charged, so I tend to agree.

(When I talk about Mastodon's CoC, I am talking about the CoC of the main federated network; you get defederated from it if you don't share the same set of rules)

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by mrweasel »

holler wrote: post #138
LeFantome wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What alternatives? I am here because I lost access to Reddit. Lemmy is not a replacement. A totally different experience for every sub-Reddit is not going to work. Reddit was pitched as The Front Page of the Internet. Where is the front page of Lemmy?

You're welcome on Sqwok ( https://sqwok.im ), it's chat based, in active dev

If that's you idea of a Reddit replacement, then you've been using Reddit very different from most people.

The issue with replacing Reddit is that you need millions of users to crowd-source all that information that has gone into every minor sub-reddit. I don't think it's sub-reddits like /r/askreddit, /r/pics or /r/politics that people would be missing in a Reddit clone. It's all the small specialized sub-reddit, where you could get help fixing a lawnmower or debate the finer points of the various aspect ratios of national flags.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by AlecSchueler »

veave wrote: post #156
AlecSchueler wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you feel that is more true in their comment than the one they were replying to, which characterised the code of conduct as politically charged in the first place without clarifying what they meant by it? The question in response seemed like open curiosity.

I admit I haven't looked at Lemmy's CoC, but I have looked at Mastodon's CoC, I imagine it's practically the same, and yes, it's politically charged, so I tend to agree. (When I talk about Mastodon's CoC, I am talking about the CoC of the main federated network; you get defederated from it if you don't share the same set of rules)

That wasn't what I asked. Do you see that you're also equating your personal opinion on the matter with the reality of how politically charged or not something is?

You disagree with it so it's politically charged. You're not even offering a definition of politically charged, just the scare words.

Beyond that, you're not even looking at the relevant document, but making a statement based purely on what you "imagine" it contains.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with their code of conduct, but I feel that you're exhibiting the very behaviour you were attempting to call out and portray as "always bollocks" originally.

It's not what you feel is "common sense" (or rather, you imagine that it isn't) so therefore it deserves to be marred as "politically charged."

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by veave »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #159
veave wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I admit I haven't looked at Lemmy's CoC, but I have looked at Mastodon's CoC, I imagine it's practically the same, and yes, it's politically charged, so I tend to agree. (When I talk about Mastodon's CoC, I am talking about the CoC of the main federated network; you get defederated from it if you don't share the same set of rules)

That wasn't what I asked. Do you see that you're also equating your personal opinion on the matter with the reality of how politically charged or not something is? You disagree with it so it's politically charged. You're not even offering a definition of politically charged, just the scare words. Beyond that, you're not even looking at the relevant document, but making a statement based purely on what you "imagine" i…

Okay, let me be more clear. I checked lemmy's rules and they link to mastodon's rules, so they even share the same set of rules.

https://mastodon.world/about

No hate speech (for example, no "derogatory posts" based on gender) -> politically charged. ///// No posts or comments supporting or promoting QAnon related content or similarly disproven conspiracy theories -> politically charged.

If you want to look at it the other way, if there was a mastodon instance that said "no pro-immigration propaganda" or "no discussions about abortions" then it would be politically charged as well.

Of course if you ask Mastodon's people they will tell you "you can't just promote a conspiracy theory like qanon, that's common sense". The other way, "abortion is murder, you can't discuss how to murder babies, that's common sense". But no, it's not "common sense", it's politics. YOu don't want people to discuss the politics you don't like in your instance. Fair is fair.

That's my point, I hope I made it more clear.

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