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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by rotzgoober »

p-e-w wrote: post #79
chongli wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a winning instance That would defeat the purpose. Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. A winning instance would concentrate power in the hands of one admin. We don’t want that!

> Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. No, that's just a marketing lie. The biggest instances have politically-charged "codes of conduct" that other instances are forced to adopt or be defederated. IIRC, some instances even require those rules to be applied transitively, that is, they will defederate from your instance unless you enforce their rules on all instances that you federate…

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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by Modified3019 »

yakabuff wrote: post #64
grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

from my own personal experience, reddit's legal team sends you a threatening email demanding that you take down your site stating that you have violated some tos/agreement

You should post that somewhere

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by justaj »

safety1st wrote: post #29
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #15

> Lemmy is the New Reddit I hope so, but we need a winning instance first. When you search for Lemmy right now you're sent to a page that begins with "Join a Server... Run a Server". That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Lemmy.world seemed to be winning the SEO battles in my Google search. Is that a good one? Edit: Sorry for changing my entire post; I had incomplete information about Lemmy at the t…

What do we need a "winning" instance for? In a federated world what does that even mean? What is this (online? HN?) cultural obsession with winner-take-all? The whole point of federation is that you don't need winner-take-all which is in fact unhealthy. If you have a community on Reddit which you want to migrate you just need to find a stable instance with admin policies you consider reasonable. If it's a big communi…

Example: Right now you have a bunch of /r/linux lemmy subreddits with their own posts and threads that are independent of each other. You can make a thread on /r/linux on the lemmy.example.com instance and will not appear at /r/linux on lemmy.example.net

This kind of fragmentation is pretty bad in terms of UX.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by ThatPlayer »

grishka wrote: post #66
gochi wrote: post #52

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Most apps back then weren't staffed by hundreds/thousands of people with a giant legal team to enforce trademarks either.

Yes but there's definitely some kind of "fair use" allowed for trademarks. My own observations show that it's fine for a product to claim it's "for" or "compatible with" someone else's trademarked product. One example is third-party coffee capsules "for Nespresso machines", usually accompanied by "not affiliated with Nespresso". I'm sure Nespresso has an army of lawyers but these things continue to be sold all around…

This happened to my preferred reddit app: reddit is fun. They changed their name to "rif is fun for reddit". Still want reddit in the name to show up in searches.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by strombofulous »

1473-bytes wrote: post #107
rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #74

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I thought this as well. I'm apparently a weirdo because I've just used the website for the past 14 years, on both desktop and mobile (though with an ad-blocker), but for all the folks that really love the alternative Android apps, why can't bring-your-own-key be an option? The fact that they're installing an alternative app kinda makes them super-users of Reddit anyway, so asking them to generate their own personal A…

That's what I did. Got a developer API key, patched the 3rd party app, good to go.

Me too, I intercepted the network requests and rewrote the key and token (and user agent ^.^ I wonder if any reddit admins here would recognize it...) in the request to access_token, or whatever the endpoint is idr

Assuming you are on android since you patched the app. Did you manage to do it without data loss? It's annoying to turn on httpcanary every time I launch rif.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by codetrotter »

dagurp wrote: post #135
mappu wrote: post #81

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Stealth ( https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.cosmos.unreddit/ ) has an optional access mode that works by scraping old.reddit.com, that still works.

Why is not being able to log in a feature? Reddit is terrible when you can't block the mainstream subreddits.

Imagine you use an unauthorised client and you post a lot of thoughtful content. Really pouring your heart and soul into that account. And then one day a few months from now, boom u/spez (CEO of Reddit) has another genius business insight for the direction he wants to take Reddit. Next day they’ve banned the accounts of everyone who’s been found to be using unauthorised clients.

Better to stay logged out if you’re gonna browse with an unauthorised client.

Besides, the client could keep a list of subreddits you like anyway, and retrieve posts from those instead of from the default front page.

Worst reddit can do then is to IP ban you bat at least they won’t be deleting anything that you’ve been spending time to write.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by jmrm »

safety1st wrote: post #29
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #15

> Lemmy is the New Reddit I hope so, but we need a winning instance first. When you search for Lemmy right now you're sent to a page that begins with "Join a Server... Run a Server". That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Lemmy.world seemed to be winning the SEO battles in my Google search. Is that a good one? Edit: Sorry for changing my entire post; I had incomplete information about Lemmy at the t…

What do we need a "winning" instance for? In a federated world what does that even mean? What is this (online? HN?) cultural obsession with winner-take-all? The whole point of federation is that you don't need winner-take-all which is in fact unhealthy. If you have a community on Reddit which you want to migrate you just need to find a stable instance with admin policies you consider reasonable. If it's a big communi…

If I need an account on four Lemmy services to don't missing out all the available content of a "sub", then it can't substitute Reddit.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by init2null »

kumarvvr wrote: post #33

Reddit has allowed the third-party app system go too far and now they are struggling to contain it. I remember when Twitter did the same thing, but they realized it early and did it when there were not too many apps that users were used to. I feel Reddit will come out fine from this. A minor hiccup. Mods will be replaced, apps will be forgotten and users will talk about this whole thing in some AskReddit thread. The…

Apollo and RIF made modern advertising-infused Reddit usable for the blind, for mods, and for power users. Instead of at least working with popular apps by offering fair fees and reasonable deadlines, Reddit just killed them.

I've seen too many declines, and I'm inclined to think this is the start of Reddit's. They are destroying their community to get to that IPO. But we'll see.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by veave »

marcosdumay wrote: post #112
p-e-w wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. No, that's just a marketing lie. The biggest instances have politically-charged "codes of conduct" that other instances are forced to adopt or be defederated. IIRC, some instances even require those rules to be applied transitively, that is, they will defederate from your instance unless you enforce their rules on all instances that you federate…

> politically-charged "codes of conduct" I wonder what are you calling "politically-charged code of conduct here". Do you have an example? Are you talking about that one single instance that became famous for having a strict code of conduct?

I'm not accusing you of this, but this argument sounds like the usual "my set of rules is not politically charged, they are just common sense!", which is always bollocks.
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