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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#91

Post by Gareth321 »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #47
zzleeper wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? I've used Reddit for 15 years and it's the first time I don't really have a good way of using it, besides the desktop (on old.reddit). On mobile (where I used to spend reddit most time) their own app is so crap I don't even have it installed, so I have no easy way to browse. On Chrome I'm not even logged-in, so I only use it whenever a google search leads me there, but I don't post or do anything meanin…

I’ve only used their app? Why is it so “crap” in your opinion?

The common complaints are:

* Low information density, even on the “classic” setting.

* Auto-play videos which cannot be disabled. Only auto-play on the feed can be disabled.

* A terrible video player.

* Ads.

* Lack of basic QOL features like swipe to upvote/save.

* A terrible navigation bar at the bottom, suggesting users performs activities Reddit wants, rather than activities common for the user.

In general, the app has been designed to be profitable for Reddit, not intuitive and functional for users. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#92

Post by water554 »

grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

More like 20-25 years ago

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#93

Post by saratogacx »

LeSaucy wrote: post #71
zzleeper wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? I've used Reddit for 15 years and it's the first time I don't really have a good way of using it, besides the desktop (on old.reddit). On mobile (where I used to spend reddit most time) their own app is so crap I don't even have it installed, so I have no easy way to browse. On Chrome I'm not even logged-in, so I only use it whenever a google search leads me there, but I don't post or do anything meanin…

The funny thing about the "good" ways of accessing reddit is that the community has already "ported" them to lemmy. - https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym - old.reddit.com styled client for lemmy - https://wefwef.app/posts/lemmy.world/all - voyager which is almost pixel perfect recreation of apollo (but in a web app that you can just "add to homepage" on ios)

You don't even need that much, at least in lenny.world you can change to a compact (light\dark) theme in your profile that is very close to old reddit.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#94

Post by grishka »

charcircuit wrote: post #84
costco wrote: post #67

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Yes, as far as I can tell terms of service violations resulting from things like scraping/using unofficial APIs are not CFAA violations and certainly not criminal unless you are not supposed to have access to the data in the first place. The company may still sue in civil court but it has to be on other grounds. Which is why hiQ "lost" to LinkedIn and settled even though they won on the CFAA issue. And why Plaid is s…

The important thing is that it was suggested to use API keys which you are not authorized to use. Just because the keys are technically public it doesn't mean that you are authorized to use them. If someone uploads their AWS token to Github it isn't legal to use it even if it was made public.

> If someone uploads their AWS token to Github it isn't legal to use it even if it was made public.

I'm pretty sure these kinds of services where you can incur significant charges by using the API have a stipulation in their ToS that any API calls performed with your key are considered to be made on your behalf. Kinda like banks do with online banking, "everything done online under your login is considered as if you've done it at a branch with paper forms". Regardless of laws it's still your own responsibility to protect your credentials.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#96

Post by ParetoOptimal »

LeFantome wrote: post #76
morserer wrote: post #65

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Not an expert, but I wonder if all the redditors who would be mad about it have already jumped ship and gone to federated alternatives, and all the redditors who are left are the ones who don't care and are watching the chaos with popcorn. If you're asking about the moderators, they were forced to either reopen or be un-modded. They did what they could.

What alternatives? I am here because I lost access to Reddit. Lemmy is not a replacement. A totally different experience for every sub-Reddit is not going to work. Reddit was pitched as The Front Page of the Internet. Where is the front page of Lemmy?

> Reddit was pitched as The Front Page of the Internet. Where is the front page of Lemmy?

https://wefwef.app

> Lemmy is not a replacement. A totally different experience for every sub-Reddit is not going to work.

Not sure what you mean.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#97

Post by ParetoOptimal »

safety1st wrote: post #29
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #15

> Lemmy is the New Reddit I hope so, but we need a winning instance first. When you search for Lemmy right now you're sent to a page that begins with "Join a Server... Run a Server". That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Lemmy.world seemed to be winning the SEO battles in my Google search. Is that a good one? Edit: Sorry for changing my entire post; I had incomplete information about Lemmy at the t…

What do we need a "winning" instance for? In a federated world what does that even mean? What is this (online? HN?) cultural obsession with winner-take-all? The whole point of federation is that you don't need winner-take-all which is in fact unhealthy. If you have a community on Reddit which you want to migrate you just need to find a stable instance with admin policies you consider reasonable. If it's a big communi…

> HN?) cultural obsession with winner-take-all? The whole point of federation is that you don't need winner-take-all which is in fact unhealthy.

Too many choices when you want to lazily scroll a reddit equivalent defeats the purpose.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#98

Post by ParetoOptimal »

oezi wrote: post #59
safety1st wrote: post #29

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What do we need a "winning" instance for? In a federated world what does that even mean? What is this (online? HN?) cultural obsession with winner-take-all? The whole point of federation is that you don't need winner-take-all which is in fact unhealthy. If you have a community on Reddit which you want to migrate you just need to find a stable instance with admin policies you consider reasonable. If it's a big communi…

Lemmy needs a better experience for first time users. For instance, one should be forwarded to the front page of a random instance and see r/all type content (and given the ability to sign up).

As I posted elsewhere https://wefwef.app does this sort of.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#99

Post by ParetoOptimal »

dryanau wrote: post #51
glenstein wrote: post #17

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Huh? My experience consisted of visiting lemmy and signing up. Also, and separately, huh? You can share links on lemmy without logging in. Look, here's one: https://lemmy.ml/post/2069154 So, you can visit without being prompted to select a server. You can sign up without having to look through servers. And you can share links without logging in. So what am I missing?

So I clicked "sign up" and it suggested checking if there might be another instance best suited to my needs, so I followed the proposed link to https://join-lemmy.org/ and got the "join a server"/"run a server" option. After clicking "join a server" and scrolling the list of half added descriptions I just left because it felt like I was supposed to be making a choice about the community I want to join before even che…

Plus even after doing the steps above you may find you get a 500 error on the email activation link like me.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#100

Post by ParetoOptimal »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #47
zzleeper wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? I've used Reddit for 15 years and it's the first time I don't really have a good way of using it, besides the desktop (on old.reddit). On mobile (where I used to spend reddit most time) their own app is so crap I don't even have it installed, so I have no easy way to browse. On Chrome I'm not even logged-in, so I only use it whenever a google search leads me there, but I don't post or do anything meanin…

I’ve only used their app? Why is it so “crap” in your opinion?

Literally 1 million trackers if r/save3rdpartyapps is to be believed.
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