New emojis in 2023-2024

Post by Eisenstein » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 6:55 PM UTC

xdennis wrote: post #141

kemayo wrote: post #65

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Speaking as a person with light-colored skin, the default-yellow emoji still basically look like me. Or, a version of me that's on the Simpsons, at least. I imagine that if I had dark skin, I'd feel a bit alienated by this experience. I'd be using these symbols that were supposed to represent me / my-reactions, but which very much didn't look like me. There'd be this pervasive sense that I was not included, not impor…

> I imagine that if I had dark skin, I'd feel a bit alienated by this experience. And the change is literally skin deep. They added skin color, but not racial features. The "black man" emoji just looks like a white guy with dark skin. Imagine if I was a dwarf. I'd feel a bit alienated that all emojis are of tall people. Shouldn't there be a dwarf modifier for every emoji: dwarf man facepalming, dwarf woman shrugging,…

Post by Eisenstein » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 6:59 PM UTC

jononomo wrote: post #167

kemayo wrote: post #66

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Have you watched the Simpsons? There's some powerful cultural baggage here. Anyway, it certainly implies not-dark skin...

You may as well say it implies not-white skin as well. The only thing it implies in regard to skin color is bright yellow.

Post by realusername » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 7:12 PM UTC

Sharlin wrote: post #82

realusername wrote: post #49

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I also don't get it, it should be a system wide setting and not something the sender specifies, I don't see any point in having some additional info not representing the meaning.

Why in heaven's name should it be a system wide setting? What sense would that make?

Post by Matheus28 » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 7:12 PM UTC

cubefox wrote: post #97

One issue with Emojis is wrong implementation messing things up. For example, I wondered why there is no "pouting" emoji. Turns out there is such an emoji in the spec, but someone (probably Apple) decided to use that Unicode point for "red angry face" (additional to the original "angry face", which is yellow). Then all the others followed the Apple design to ensure consistency. Now the Unicode consortium can't introd…

Post by realusername » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 7:18 PM UTC

kemayo wrote: post #69

realusername wrote: post #49

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I also don't get it, it should be a system wide setting and not something the sender specifies, I don't see any point in having some additional info not representing the meaning.

There is meaning, though -- it's specifically saying something about the person sending it and how they chose to present themselves.