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New emojis in 2023-2024

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Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by LordDragonfang »

dexwell wrote: post #5

I wonder if they're ever going to decide that enough emoji is enough, or will continue adding more until every word in the dictionary is an emoji. There have been some ridiculous inclusions in the past years despite more obvious candidates that are still missing. The great thing about emoji used to be the constraints, which made for a clear overview of available emoji and made people use the limited set in creative w…

Speaking of obvious candidates, somehow Unicode still doesn't include the "external link" symbol, despite it being used almost everywhere (and fitting the original mission of accurately transcribing text)

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2018/18303-external-link.pdf

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by mattwad »

graypegg wrote: post #75

I feel for the artists whose job it is to draw and organize nearly 4000 little vector images, most of which will barely ever be used to communicate anything. I'm going to imagine that it's functionally impossible to make a font with full emoji support now unless you're a massive corporation. (Not that it's an issue really, but there's only so far you can push the list of required code points right? You can leave off…

I mean, the Chinese language has 106,230 characters [1]. This is not a new issue. And it actually sounds fun, at least they are drawings and not just various organizations of black lines

[1] https://chinainternshipplacements.com/blog/how-many-chinese-...

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by luuurker »

postsantum wrote: post #74
karol wrote: post #11

Is there a God emoji?

It's forbidden to picture God in Islam

But it's not forbidden in many other religions and emojis are for everyone.

I don't really care if there's a "God emoji" or not and wish good luck to those who'd have to picture God in an emoji, but this freedom and respect thing goes both ways. A group is free not to like or use this emoji, but they don't get to stop others from liking or using it.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by lapcat »

kortex wrote: post #83
lapcat wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If "Looks good," "Ok," and "Yup" signal a binding contract, as detailed in the case you're talking about, I contend it's perfectly reasonable for :thumbsup: to also signal a binding contract between the same parties. I wasn't criticizing the decision in the case. I'm neither a lawyer nor a Canadian and have no opinion about that. I was criticizing the entire situation, the absurdity of emoji becoming a matter of le…

Why is the sequence of bytes representing 是的 ( Shì de - yes), valid human symbolic language, but the sequence of bytes representing thumbs up "absurd" language? Nowhere in the Rules of Human Language, Volume 12023, does it say "language must comprise a fixed set of symbols that is locked in time".

This is not about gradual language evolution in general. It's about the specific stupidity of emoji, as I already explained:

> Emoji have become trite, lazy, and practically meaningless, especially a few such as "face with tears of joy", "rolling on the floor laughing face", and "fire". Emoticons used to be a supplement for words, indicating the tone of the words, but now emoji are a replacement for words, the ultimate illiteracy.

Also, even worse, emoji are "evolving" so damn fast and continually that they appear as broken boxes if you're not running the very latest browser or operating system version.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by joshmanders »

lapcat wrote: post #71
dagmx wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emoji are zero cost resources for websites on most devices and have the benefit of matching the users expectations of iconography across the system, not to mention being accessible by default. It’s really a win win of size reduction, consistency and accessibility. The only competitive systems are something like font-awesome icons or SFSymbols. The latter isn’t available to sites afaik though.

> consistency There's no consistency, because different operating systems and web browsers display emoji differently, and emoji availability depends crucially on the OS or browser version.

The consistency is that if you use a (mushroom) emoji as an icon for your stuff, users on Windows will immediately know what it is because they are aware of how the emojis on their OS work. Same with Android, iOS, etc. Not that all emojis are the same across all devices.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by cubefox »

One issue with Emojis is wrong implementation messing things up. For example, I wondered why there is no "pouting" emoji. Turns out there is such an emoji in the spec, but someone (probably Apple) decided to use that Unicode point for "red angry face" (additional to the original "angry face", which is yellow). Then all the others followed the Apple design to ensure consistency. Now the Unicode consortium can't introduce a "pouting face" emoji anymore, since they technically already did!

There are quite a few of those cases. Apparently it is mostly Apple messing up the specified emotion and the others copying the error.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by lapcat »

joshmanders wrote: post #96
lapcat wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> consistency There's no consistency, because different operating systems and web browsers display emoji differently, and emoji availability depends crucially on the OS or browser version.

The consistency is that if you use a (mushroom) emoji as an icon for your stuff, users on Windows will immediately know what it is because they are aware of how the emojis on their OS work. Same with Android, iOS, etc. Not that all emojis are the same across all devices.

This is less consistent than images, which are generally rendered the same on all devices. Worse, though, is the broken black boxes that appear when someone uses a newer emoji that your browser or operating system version doesn't yet support, which happens all of the time.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by kibwen »

lapcat wrote: post #47
dexwell wrote: post #5

I wonder if they're ever going to decide that enough emoji is enough, or will continue adding more until every word in the dictionary is an emoji. There have been some ridiculous inclusions in the past years despite more obvious candidates that are still missing. The great thing about emoji used to be the constraints, which made for a clear overview of available emoji and made people use the limited set in creative w…

This is why I stopped using emoji 5 years and never looked back. It's a really stupidly designed system if you need operating system updates just to read text! I won't participate in that insanity anymore. Emoji have become trite, lazy, and practically meaningless, especially a few such as "face with tears of joy", "rolling on the floor laughing face", and "fire". Emoticons used to be a supplement for words, indicati…

> Emoticons used to be a supplement for words, indicating the tone of the words, but now emoji are a replacement for words, the ultimate illiteracy.

People have been using things like "lol" and "lmao" since long before Unicode even existed, let alone emojis.

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