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FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
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Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#62We have an obesity epidemic, not a diet-coke-cancer epidemic in this country. I'd say the occasional can of diet soda is a good tradeoff.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#63> Schubauer-Berigan acknowledged during a press conference with journalists Wednesday that the studies could contain flaws that skewed the results. She said the classification should be viewed as a call to conduct more research into whether aspartame can cause cancer in humans. > “Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives in the human food supply. FDA scientists do not have safety concerns when aspartame is…
The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious. But you have to remember that the FDA is not working for YOUR best interest either. When the FDA says that something is “safe”, what it actually means is “the economic impacts of this are probably negligible in a lifetime”. So if aspartame causes cancer after your career is over, then it’s safe according to the FDA. The WHO isn’t under the same lobbying or economi…
> The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious
Not always. It took them far too long to acknowledge COVID-19 could be transmitted through the air.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#64> Schubauer-Berigan acknowledged during a press conference with journalists Wednesday that the studies could contain flaws that skewed the results. She said the classification should be viewed as a call to conduct more research into whether aspartame can cause cancer in humans. > “Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives in the human food supply. FDA scientists do not have safety concerns when aspartame is…
I agree, but studies have nowhere close to a 99% confidence interval. Half or more of these types of studies reach false conclusions and are not reproducible.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder what the time-frame for this is. If I drink 14 cans of diet soda once, have I permanently increased my odds of cancer? That seems likely. If I drink 14 cans of anything other than water or maybe coffee every day for 30 years I would expect negative health effects. It would be great if they had some sort of time-frame.
I think hot water is also on the carcinogen list.
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Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#66> Schubauer-Berigan acknowledged during a press conference with journalists Wednesday that the studies could contain flaws that skewed the results. She said the classification should be viewed as a call to conduct more research into whether aspartame can cause cancer in humans. > “Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives in the human food supply. FDA scientists do not have safety concerns when aspartame is…
> And given the alternative is sugar No, the alternative is to learn to enjoy bitter beverages. We don't need sweeteners.
>the alternative is to learn to enjoy bitter beverages.
people seek replacements when things they like become scarce, not alternatives.
asking the public-at-large to wholly change preference (especially when the preference is compounded by biological bias in the way we experience taste..) will never be effective without extenuating circumstance or market control of some sort.
I sympathize with your point -- people should try to enjoy things without a lot of excess sweetness -- but it doesn't align with reality.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious. But you have to remember that the FDA is not working for YOUR best interest either. When the FDA says that something is “safe”, what it actually means is “the economic impacts of this are probably negligible in a lifetime”. So if aspartame causes cancer after your career is over, then it’s safe according to the FDA. The WHO isn’t under the same lobbying or economi…
> The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious Not always. It took them far too long to acknowledge COVID-19 could be transmitted through the air. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00925-7
That tells you about how much you should listen to their opinions on the causation of cancer, eh?
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder what the time-frame for this is. If I drink 14 cans of diet soda once, have I permanently increased my odds of cancer? That seems likely. If I drink 14 cans of anything other than water or maybe coffee every day for 30 years I would expect negative health effects. It would be great if they had some sort of time-frame.
If you plan on living 200 years, I guess you'd have to restrict yourself to five cans per day to stay under your lifetime limit.
My point is there is a big difference between and X% increase in cancer being associated with 2-3 cans a day for a year compared to a decade. And who knows if 2-3 cans a day for a year is any safer than 1 can a day for 5 years or a can every other day for 20 years?
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious. But you have to remember that the FDA is not working for YOUR best interest either. When the FDA says that something is “safe”, what it actually means is “the economic impacts of this are probably negligible in a lifetime”. So if aspartame causes cancer after your career is over, then it’s safe according to the FDA. The WHO isn’t under the same lobbying or economi…
I mean, it's hard to even know where to grapple with such a polemic statement. But you mean to say that the FDA's mission is to ignore retirees? Retirees being the the most powerful voting block in the country, the top source of campaign contributions, and top recipient of government funds. Even if I was conspiratorial minded, I would assume the conspiracy works the other way.
That's not what he means. He's referring to the FDA officials retiring, and thus no longer being responsible for any of their decisions on safety anymore, since they're at home relaxing if anything bad happens down the road.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#70Diet soda and sweeteners behind them are still a scam even if they don’t “cause cancer.” They’re a scam because they still cause insulin response. Pancreas cranks out insulin after tasting the soda, and there no blood sugar to react with. My uncle drank tons of Diet Coke and got pancreatic cancer. Doesn’t mean diet soda caused his pancreatic cancer, but he definitely didn’t loose weight by drinking the stuff.
Erythritol doesn't cause insulin response.
Stevia doesn't.
Monk fruit extract doesn't.