In 2023 counterculture is right wing but that's a hard to swallow pill for a lot
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The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#42In 2023 counterculture is right wing but that's a hard to swallow pill for a lot
In what sense? The last 24 years in the US have/will be split equally between Democrat and Republican presidents. In the UK the majority of this century has been run by the Conservative party. The US Supreme Court is 'right leaning' and that's unlikely to change anytime soon. How can the right wing be the counter culture when it holds most of the power? [Obviously just looking at two countries I'm familiar with but right wing ideology has surged all over in the last decade].
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#43The real counterculture right now is non-participation . In a world where virtually everything is either designed to completely waste your time or fail and not be repairable, it's a highly radical act to stop consuming like the 95%, preferring to spend time with other humans in reality doing something that isn't technological. In spite of the popular world pushing the message that you will be fulfilled living in virt…
A strange game.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#44Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#45The internet used to be counterculture. Now it’s the mall. Those of us who feel nostalgia for the countercultural internet … I fear we’re too old to be admitted into current counterculture. We are the culture the youths are countering.
Erm, counter culture has nothing to do with age per se.
"never trust anyone over 30" was a maxim for a reason. It's difficult to fight culture once you've become invested in the status quo, and so alienated by the cutting edge that modernity disgusts you.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#46Counterculture requires gatekeeping, because most people can't take it, ESPECIALLY anyone who uses Instragram The best times I've had were having parties where we would work on cool exhibits with barely contained pyrotechnics, Tesla coils that would kill you if you touched it, and an expectation that YOU DO NOT PUT IT ON THE INTERNET and if you get hurt, YOU DID NOT GET HURT HERE. Everyone wants a nice and curated ex…
If you are risking fingers, cutting off body parts or taking dumb risks just stop. It's not worth it. It's not cool or interesting. These are the things you regret later. You did not get hurt here works until someone does get hurt and the hammer comes down on you.
This is why people think counterculture is dead.
I've hurt myself badly many times and have never regretted it, because it was fun and incredibly intellectually satisfying. I know no-one at these places that regret it, everyone accepts that that they are all working to a common goal of being awesome
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#47Counterculture requires gatekeeping, because most people can't take it, ESPECIALLY anyone who uses Instragram The best times I've had were having parties where we would work on cool exhibits with barely contained pyrotechnics, Tesla coils that would kill you if you touched it, and an expectation that YOU DO NOT PUT IT ON THE INTERNET and if you get hurt, YOU DID NOT GET HURT HERE. Everyone wants a nice and curated ex…
I don't go to cool parties like you do because I do not want to lose digits, but you hit the nail on the head; that which is transgressive gets bundled up safely and sold. It would not surprise me if that lead to the equivalent of tourists who do not understand why they are being scolded for approaching meese in a state park.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#48In a time where tolerance and respect for minorities is slowly becoming mainstream, you could argue that the far-right has become counterculture. The far-right is VERY prevalent on both Instagram, Twitter and other social media.
I think this is the biggest argument against deplatforming: it actually makes them cool.
Part of the appeal of these ideologies is clearly that they are offensive, not permitted on mainstream platforms, and therefore are something that their participants can "own" and that won't be co-opted by consumerism.
It's the same thing that fueled "Satanic" rock and similar things. Fascism is devil music. That most people are offended by it and mainstream authorities preach against it is a huge part of its appeal.
Elon Musk might be damaging this a little. It's hard to think you're a rebellious counterculture when you have one of the world's richest men acting as a public torch bearer.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#49The real counterculture right now is non-participation . In a world where virtually everything is either designed to completely waste your time or fail and not be repairable, it's a highly radical act to stop consuming like the 95%, preferring to spend time with other humans in reality doing something that isn't technological. In spite of the popular world pushing the message that you will be fulfilled living in virt…
I don't know why you needed to derail a good point with the insect conspiracy theory dog whistle tho.
If me and the homies get together weekly for bible study and fried crickets does that not fit into what you're describing?
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#50Counterculture requires gatekeeping, because most people can't take it, ESPECIALLY anyone who uses Instragram The best times I've had were having parties where we would work on cool exhibits with barely contained pyrotechnics, Tesla coils that would kill you if you touched it, and an expectation that YOU DO NOT PUT IT ON THE INTERNET and if you get hurt, YOU DID NOT GET HURT HERE. Everyone wants a nice and curated ex…
If you are risking fingers, cutting off body parts or taking dumb risks just stop. It's not worth it. It's not cool or interesting. These are the things you regret later. You did not get hurt here works until someone does get hurt and the hammer comes down on you.
This is an attitude today which is almost universal in Anglo countries, yet those very same countries would never have developed as much as they have had it been present in the past. Safetyism is killing Western Civilisation.