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The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Post by phoe-krk »

spacemadness wrote: post #10

“Actual power keeps a low profile; actual power doesn’t need a social media presence, it owns social media.” So where does Elon fit in here?

In the greatest circus on the world, where he's the head clown, watched by millions. Keeping a low profile and covertly performing power is actually possible if you distract everyone else with being an ultra-rich obnoxious idiot online.

I obviously can't prove it (even more so because it's unlikely Elon is more than an ultra-rich obnoxious online idiot), but it's an entertaining thought nonetheless.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Post by andsoitis »

Llamasponge wrote: post #12

In a time where tolerance and respect for minorities is slowly becoming mainstream, you could argue that the far-right has become counterculture. The far-right is VERY prevalent on both Instagram, Twitter and other social media.

Relevant article: https://www.city-journal.org/article/a-new-counterculture/

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Post by tekla »

Swizec wrote: post #9

The internet used to be counterculture. Now it’s the mall. Those of us who feel nostalgia for the countercultural internet … I fear we’re too old to be admitted into current counterculture. We are the culture the youths are countering.

I know plenty of crust punks who bring their kids to events. They just dont let their kids do the actually fun stuff, because the kids don't have enough experience yet.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Post by hutzlibu »

Swizec wrote: post #16
hutzlibu wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Erm, counter culture has nothing to do with age per se.

Touche. But many here on HN literally helped build the mainstream web. Or at least gave it their best shot. Hard to get more mainstream than “i work at facebook/google/whatever”

Oh for sure. When you get old, you want more comfort(or have a family to feed) and more comfort comes with more money and more money comes with loosening up some ideals.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Post by JohnFen »

tekla wrote: post #20

Counterculture requires gatekeeping, because most people can't take it, ESPECIALLY anyone who uses Instragram The best times I've had were having parties where we would work on cool exhibits with barely contained pyrotechnics, Tesla coils that would kill you if you touched it, and an expectation that YOU DO NOT PUT IT ON THE INTERNET and if you get hurt, YOU DID NOT GET HURT HERE. Everyone wants a nice and curated ex…

Yes. Social media in general, and particularly things like FB, IG or Tiktok, are the exact opposite of "counterculture".

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Post by pmlnr »

Swizec wrote: post #9

The internet used to be counterculture. Now it’s the mall. Those of us who feel nostalgia for the countercultural internet … I fear we’re too old to be admitted into current counterculture. We are the culture the youths are countering.

> The internet used to be counterculture. Now it’s the mall.

No. The internet is the same thing or place; the mall is the well known part of it, like AOL or Yahoo was, "back in the days".

The artisan alleys of the net exist (eg http://www.penmorfa.com/ , or basically anything from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36575081 ), the abandoned houses or factories of the internet exist (look at blogs that hadn't been touched in a decade); museums, art, libraries, etc exist (look at websites like https://ubu.com/ or https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/ ). It's all still there.

And malls are there as well, so are packed beaches, attractions, and all the cheap and bad things from the world.

Someone somewhere definitely said already the internet is but a mirror of the world.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)

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Post by api »

Swizec wrote: post #9

The internet used to be counterculture. Now it’s the mall. Those of us who feel nostalgia for the countercultural internet … I fear we’re too old to be admitted into current counterculture. We are the culture the youths are countering.

It still exists. You find it in places like the Fediverse, private self-hosted forums, private Slack and Discord groups, etc.
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