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SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by jccalhoun »

rco8786 wrote: post #58
krustyburger wrote: post #21

It’s important to note that Anchor as a division is being shut down as a cost-saving measure by its owner Sapporo, a transnational, publicly-traded corporation. Sapporo says they have tried to find a buyer for Anchor, but to no avail. Meanwhile Sapporo recently purchased Stone Brewing in San Diego and are beginning Sapporo production there while still making Stone beers. If Sapporo hadn’t also bought Stone, presumabl…

Genuine question. Why is this important to note?

I don't live anywhere near this place so I may be wrong but because the article makes it sound like some small company is closing when in reality is it a division of a company that is closing. So to me it doesn't matter any more than when Coke stopped making Tab.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by backtoyoujim »

Solvency wrote: post #61
krustyburger wrote: post #21

It’s important to note that Anchor as a division is being shut down as a cost-saving measure by its owner Sapporo, a transnational, publicly-traded corporation. Sapporo says they have tried to find a buyer for Anchor, but to no avail. Meanwhile Sapporo recently purchased Stone Brewing in San Diego and are beginning Sapporo production there while still making Stone beers. If Sapporo hadn’t also bought Stone, presumabl…

I think we can start dropping useless affectations like "it's important to note" now that ChatGPT has utterly co-opted them and revealed how meaningless they are. You could have simply stated that Anchor division is being dropped. I'm already reading your comment. You don't have to sell me on why you're noting it.

Are you kidding ? You want us to bend our language usage for ChatGPT ?

Can you just let humans write without LLMs controlling the development of our language ?

We have managed to have language without your ChatGPT.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by flyinghamster »

wl wrote: post #60
kasey_junk wrote: post #9

They had to be famously saved by a rich guy as a vanity project earlier in their life. Perhaps it’s time to admit it’s just not a viable product, especially now that the US beer scene is so expansive.

Famously saved in a way that kicked off the American craft brewing movement. Fritz Maytag brought a modern microbiological perspective to American brewing, reintroduced dormant American styles, validated that there was a market for such beers, and deliberately helped other breweries brew great beer rather than expanding faster than he felt comfortable to meet demand. It was a viable business when Maytag decided to re…

And I think the economy has a great effect. Craft beer is expensive, and when everything else has doubled in price, it becomes a luxury. Between that and competing for shelf space when the oligopoly has crammed the shelves with faux "craft" beers, I'm expecting a shakeout in the craft brew business - a local brewery closed up at the end of May with about a week of warning and no reason why, even though the taproom always had customers.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by WiseWeasel »

ginko wrote: post #57
WiseWeasel wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess Sierra Nevada was a big influence early on, and since then I’ve come to appreciate a large variety, from more hoppy offerings from the likes of Russian River, Lagunitas, Stone and recently Almanac, to lagers from Pacifico and Dos Equis, several prominent Belgian brands, and some local sours. I enjoy a wide variety, but always thought of Anchor Steam as bland, malty, and mediocre, on the same low level as Fat…

>always thought of Anchor Steam as bland, malty, and mediocre, on the same low level as Fat Tire, to name a comparable brand. So was it bland or malty? Those seem mutually exclusive to me. I'm generally a fan of steam beers/california commons because of the very dark malt forward flavor. It was one of my favorite beer styles to brew and drink. Do you like Munich dunkels?

Bland in a flavor complexity sense, and malty as in too sweet. I guess a better way to say it is too sweet for its sourness/bitterness.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by alex_young »

Solvency wrote: post #61
krustyburger wrote: post #21

It’s important to note that Anchor as a division is being shut down as a cost-saving measure by its owner Sapporo, a transnational, publicly-traded corporation. Sapporo says they have tried to find a buyer for Anchor, but to no avail. Meanwhile Sapporo recently purchased Stone Brewing in San Diego and are beginning Sapporo production there while still making Stone beers. If Sapporo hadn’t also bought Stone, presumabl…

I think we can start dropping useless affectations like "it's important to note" now that ChatGPT has utterly co-opted them and revealed how meaningless they are. You could have simply stated that Anchor division is being dropped. I'm already reading your comment. You don't have to sell me on why you're noting it.

Personally I think it’s important to note the community standards here when replying to comments. It’s better to thoughtfully discuss something than to criticize the writing style of someone else in my opinion.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by kodt »

eweise wrote: post #62
rco8786 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question. Why is this important to note?

Can Anchor be considered a craft brewer if its owned by Saporro?

Only if you are using to the definition of craft promoted by the Brewers Association. There are many other uses of the term "Craft Beer" that use other definitions often based on the style of beer, and having nothing to do with ownership.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by kodt »

rco8786 wrote: post #58
krustyburger wrote: post #21

It’s important to note that Anchor as a division is being shut down as a cost-saving measure by its owner Sapporo, a transnational, publicly-traded corporation. Sapporo says they have tried to find a buyer for Anchor, but to no avail. Meanwhile Sapporo recently purchased Stone Brewing in San Diego and are beginning Sapporo production there while still making Stone beers. If Sapporo hadn’t also bought Stone, presumabl…

Genuine question. Why is this important to note?

The decision to close is likely influenced by their ownership, while if it were still independent they may try to find a way to make it work on a smaller level.

Re: SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

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Post by TravelPiglet »

eweise wrote: post #62
rco8786 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question. Why is this important to note?

Can Anchor be considered a craft brewer if its owned by Saporro?

https://www.brewersassociation.org/statistics-and-data/craft...
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