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Is it alcohol that’s killing society or societies lack of support for addiction that’s killing? It is a disease, you need treatment and can’t fix it yourself.
SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years
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#52I got to do a tour of the place, it was really fun. It's located near Potrero Hill. I can't say anything about their cost structure but having a location that's in SF probably has some disadvantages. But, there are a lot of other craft brewers in the bay area that are quite good. Drake's, Faction come to mind. You don't have to go much further afield to find Bear Republic, Russian River Brew Co. I would not consider…
The only rigorous definition of "craft" is the one the brewer's association maintains, and they tweak it frequently to keep Sam Adams in. Lagunitas was a craft brewer by that definition until they sold to Heineken. There was a period of a few years where a number of old-guard regional craft brewers sold to international conglomerates.
For my money while the brewery may not be craft anymore, the beer still is. Or, if someone calls Lagunitas IPA a craft beer I'm not going to correct them - I might if it was blue moon or leininkugels, say.
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You’re just regurgitating conservative talking points that don’t align with reality. The California economy is the largest in the USA, by a significant margin, and its economic growth over the last 15 years far outpaced the U.S national average. California is on track to overtake Germany as the world’s 4th largest economy.
Also, don't Californians move to other states for the same reason expats move to Costa Rica or Thailand? Because they are much richer than the locals, so they can have an outsized lifestyle for their money. Coming in and outbidding for the nicest houses certainly doesn't sound like refugees fleeing a collapsing government. I don't understand how people can see that and think people are "escaping".
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guess you missed > especially in San Francisco San Francisco had some of the most restrictive covid policies in the country.
And lowest rates of death, especially for the density. A choice was made to trade off companies (which can be replaced) for lives (which can't be replaced).
Everyone left, im sure san francisco factored that into the denominator and didnt use statistics from before covid
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#55A month ago the story was limiting national distribution etc....... that escalated quickly https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36301974
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#56Props for being the original craft beer, but I never liked it.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought anchor steam is pretty good. What beer do you like?
I guess Sierra Nevada was a big influence early on, and since then I’ve come to appreciate a large variety, from more hoppy offerings from the likes of Russian River, Lagunitas, Stone and recently Almanac, to lagers from Pacifico and Dos Equis, several prominent Belgian brands, and some local sours. I enjoy a wide variety, but always thought of Anchor Steam as bland, malty, and mediocre, on the same low level as Fat…
>always thought of Anchor Steam as bland, malty, and mediocre, on the same low level as Fat Tire, to name a comparable brand.
So was it bland or malty? Those seem mutually exclusive to me.
I'm generally a fan of steam beers/california commons because of the very dark malt forward flavor. It was one of my favorite beer styles to brew and drink.
Do you like Munich dunkels?
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#58It’s important to note that Anchor as a division is being shut down as a cost-saving measure by its owner Sapporo, a transnational, publicly-traded corporation. Sapporo says they have tried to find a buyer for Anchor, but to no avail. Meanwhile Sapporo recently purchased Stone Brewing in San Diego and are beginning Sapporo production there while still making Stone beers. If Sapporo hadn’t also bought Stone, presumabl…
Genuine question. Why is this important to note?
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#59Honest question: how did this SF brewing company survive prohibition? If it really is 127 years old, it must have existed during prohibition. How was it not shut down then? I'm curious.
I went down this rabbit hole on National Beer [1] day this year.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Beer_Day_(United_Stat...
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#60They had to be famously saved by a rich guy as a vanity project earlier in their life. Perhaps it’s time to admit it’s just not a viable product, especially now that the US beer scene is so expansive.
Famously saved in a way that kicked off the American craft brewing movement. Fritz Maytag brought a modern microbiological perspective to American brewing, reintroduced dormant American styles, validated that there was a market for such beers, and deliberately helped other breweries brew great beer rather than expanding faster than he felt comfortable to meet demand. It was a viable business when Maytag decided to retire in 2010.