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Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by kyle-rb »

So forks are selected by users, via whoever gets the most stamps. As a user I'd have to:

1. Seek out forks of the app that I use and try them out.

2. Check to make sure there aren't any bugs introduced in the fork.

3. Check to make sure the author didn't introduce a subtle backdoor into the system allowing them to e.g. mint infinite tokens.

4. Check how many tokens the developer minted themselves as the reward for this work, to make sure it's not too many. (Do I actually care?)

Hope the majority of users are paying this much attention!

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by archerx »

z33k wrote: post #28
xk_id wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsupported conspiracy theories, classic cryptophobia.

Multiple studies have consistently found the majority of crypto/ dex/ dapp TXs being done by bots. 2019: https://anchainai.medium.com/our-ai-detects-your-ai-revealin... 2022: https://twitter.com/messaricrypto/status/1599916553780137985

So just like Wallstreet?

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by xk_id »

z33k wrote: post #28
xk_id wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsupported conspiracy theories, classic cryptophobia.

Multiple studies have consistently found the majority of crypto/ dex/ dapp TXs being done by bots. 2019: https://anchainai.medium.com/our-ai-detects-your-ai-revealin... 2022: https://twitter.com/messaricrypto/status/1599916553780137985

The 2019 study published on medium only lists machine learning buzzwords in their methods section. The 2022 twitter link doesn’t explain the methodology at all; on the other hand, Messari is usually legit (but paywalled).

Regardless, programmable transactions are in fact a feature of DeFi, they are launched by real people anyway and it doesn’t automatically imply “wash trading”; that’s just bad faith speculation.

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by z33k »

xk_id wrote: post #33
z33k wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple studies have consistently found the majority of crypto/ dex/ dapp TXs being done by bots. 2019: https://anchainai.medium.com/our-ai-detects-your-ai-revealin... 2022: https://twitter.com/messaricrypto/status/1599916553780137985

The 2019 study published on medium only lists machine learning buzzwords in their methods section. The 2022 twitter link doesn’t explain the methodology at all; on the other hand, Messari is usually legit (but paywalled). Regardless, programmable transactions are in fact a feature of DeFi, they are launched by real people anyway and it doesn’t automatically imply “wash trading”; that’s just bad faith speculation.

It does imply, however, that citing figures like "$1.72 billion of on-chain transaction volume in the last 24h" in the context of web3's health is misleading or false.

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by xk_id »

z33k wrote: post #35
xk_id wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 2019 study published on medium only lists machine learning buzzwords in their methods section. The 2022 twitter link doesn’t explain the methodology at all; on the other hand, Messari is usually legit (but paywalled). Regardless, programmable transactions are in fact a feature of DeFi, they are launched by real people anyway and it doesn’t automatically imply “wash trading”; that’s just bad faith speculation.

It does imply, however, that citing figures like "$1.72 billion of on-chain transaction volume in the last 24h" in the context of web3's health is misleading or false.

False? How? It’s verifiable on-chain data. Misleading? Well, it’s pretty common sense that many users will automate their transactions; that’s a big feature of an open, programmable financial infrastructure. And at the end of the day, even if we adjust the number down by two-thirds, then $600m volume in the last 24h is still a questionable definition of “dead”.

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by RobotToaster »

janandonly wrote: post #27

Another attempt to shill more and more tokens. What is wrong with open and simple protocols, like NOSTR? Thanks to the different NIPs (NOSTR Improvement Proposals) [1] any client can choose to support or ignore anything that another has bolted on. And incentives for developers, you ask? If your client or relay is truly better than the competition, then users want to use your software/Webapp. They will not mind paying…

Isn't nostr just clients connecting to multiple servers? With no communication between servers?

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by RobotToaster »

jerojero wrote: post #14

If the problem is that users using an app that's supposed to be, by it's governance structure, decentralized but in practice it's still centralised and this is the primary reason why changes aren't implemented/pushed through. I think it's more reasonable to think about solutions to the governance problem itself. Imo, thinking a plutocratic structure would ever bring forth power decentralisation is foolish to begin wi…

Wouldn't sortition be game-able by creating a lot of wallets with tiny amounts in?

Re: Darwin: A framework for evolving decentralized web apps

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Post by chriswarbo »

janandonly wrote: post #27

Another attempt to shill more and more tokens. What is wrong with open and simple protocols, like NOSTR? Thanks to the different NIPs (NOSTR Improvement Proposals) [1] any client can choose to support or ignore anything that another has bolted on. And incentives for developers, you ask? If your client or relay is truly better than the competition, then users want to use your software/Webapp. They will not mind paying…

Sounds quite similar to XMPP. I used that to build some simple microblogging servers about a decade ago; I also used it for identi.ca and Twitter too (via gateways).
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