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The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by pentagrama »

makeitdouble wrote: post #25
gleenn wrote: post #5

His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

What examples of ad based rising companies do you see ? My first thought was Google, and it's started to plateau in the recent years: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOGL/alphabet/rev... . Meta also took a dive, and while it was from a sharp turn of the business focus, I'd argue it comes from an attempt to avoid staying on a stagnating market.

I read that the new cheaper ad based Netflix tier was really successful. So maybe a future of all paid products but a cheaper option for a worst experience with ads?

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by andreygrehov »

croes wrote: post #73
andreygrehov wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.

He also threatened to "thermonuclear name and shame" advertisers who paused spending. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-name-shame-adverti...

That was a sarcasm. I should have stated that he doesn't care as much as other companies. Elon, being the richest person on the planet, is uniquely positioned and has a competitive advantage. He can risk losing ad revenue to achieve his goals - minimize censorship and create a super-app.

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by alasarmas »

lr4444lr wrote: post #37
standardUser wrote: post #20

I'm not going to watch this entire video. I just want to ask, what the fuck is going on with those disgusting body horror ads we see all over the internet? Close ups of pimples and wounds and bizzare diagrams of human anatomy that all appear designed specifically to draw the eye (at any cost) but personally just repulse me. There's a whole cross section of websites I won't visit, including some major news sites, beca…

I think the term is "chumbox". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumbox (I.e., the icky health ads are a major category of it.) https://www.fastcompany.com/90843502/the-chumbox-is-still-th...

The original(?) article on chumboxes is still the best:

https://www.theawl.com/2015/06/a-complete-taxonomy-of-intern...

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by lettergram »

gleenn wrote: post #5

His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

I keep asking this because I don’t understand - how is Elon “killing” twitter?

I’ve frankly not seen any difference, at all. If anything there’s slightly more activity

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by aurizon »

My Ad-Antibodies have become stronger with time, even as the click baits proliferate. Anything that shows a morsel = click for next = I am gone. Some ads are tolerable - I endure, some throw up such a ticket = gone. Any site that asks me = gone...

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by andreygrehov »

itake wrote: post #75
andreygrehov wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter I disagree. Elon doesn't care about ad revenue. He stated multiple times that the goal is to make Twitter a superapp.

As someone who works for an asian "superapp", the grass is always greener. Superapps are self-limiting, because the app-size is too large for many user's phones (Uber has famously had this problem too, and thus split up their apps [0]). The UX also tends to be a bit weird. Everyone wants to use the superapp differently and so the interface ends up being the lowest common denominator across all product families. [0] h…

Maybe, but none of that matters at the moment. These are after-the-fact problems.

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by midoridensha »

standardUser wrote: post #20

I'm not going to watch this entire video. I just want to ask, what the fuck is going on with those disgusting body horror ads we see all over the internet? Close ups of pimples and wounds and bizzare diagrams of human anatomy that all appear designed specifically to draw the eye (at any cost) but personally just repulse me. There's a whole cross section of websites I won't visit, including some major news sites, beca…

Why aren't you using an ad-blocker?

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by Nextgrid »

mschuster91 wrote: post #4

It's gotta be ironic that the most recent comment on a video about ads is some spam advertising a get-rich-quick scheme. The sad fact is that there still seem to be more than enough utterly braindead marks on the Internet that fall for these scams and thus make the spam campaigns, scare ads and other crap "worth the effort".

> The sad fact is that there still seem to be more than enough utterly braindead marks on the Internet that fall for these scams and thus make the spam campaigns, scare ads and other crap "worth the effort".

And that despite the size of Google, modern advancements in technology such as large processing power, AI and LLMs, all the tracking and anti-abuse mechanisms (that often misfire and ban legitimate accounts with no recourse), this shit still manages to get through while being super obvious.

We used to filter this crap out on forums back in the good old days with much more primitive tools (regexes and basic keyword matching + queuing for moderator's manual approval), but Google wants us to believe they can't while in reality they just don't care because they're not liable, have a monopoly and those spammers still contribute towards "engagement".

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by rcme »

makeitdouble wrote: post #25
gleenn wrote: post #5

His two examples are Twitter and Reddit whose ad revenue is dying because those two companies have made huge blunders. Elon seems to almost actively be killing Twitter (which the poster even states). Reddit screwed Apollo and then many of the most popular subreddits protested and did things like show porn on otherwise usually SFW content to prevent Reddit from showing ads and thus killing their profits. Those are big…

What examples of ad based rising companies do you see ? My first thought was Google, and it's started to plateau in the recent years: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOGL/alphabet/rev... . Meta also took a dive, and while it was from a sharp turn of the business focus, I'd argue it comes from an attempt to avoid staying on a stagnating market.

Apple’s ad business is growing.

Re: The ad-based internet is dying, and it's getting worse in the process [video]

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

RajT88 wrote: post #7
constantly wrote: post #3

I hope I won’t be faulted for not “reading” the OP, but it’s a 17 minute video. I watched a little, but I don’t understand the thesis. It does seem ironic though that on a video about the ad-based internet dying, there are several ads in the page, the video maker in the first segment has a lengthy ad where he praises whatever he is advertising, probably VPN stuff, there is a bunch of begging for paid subscribers in t…

I look forward to a future where these videos can get auto-transcribed (accurately) so I don't have to watch the damn video.

I have been incredibly impressed with whisper.cpp. A bit of legwork to transcribe a youtube video, but the results are very accurate.
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