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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by SamuelAdams »

jamil7 wrote: post #326
jacknews wrote: post #248

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It's not all necessarily new, but for example on every update I seem to get 'Operation not permitted' somewhere new. Then why can't I change the spaces animation (turn it off)? Windows snapping without leaving a gap on the edge of the screen? Etc, etc. And are they now doing scans for copyright-infringing media and so on - I wouldn't be surprised. I'm an adult. It's my computer. Let me do what I want with it.

Fair enough, like you said, these aren't new, though. > Then why can't I change the spaces animation (turn it off)? Windows snapping without leaving a gap on the edge of the screen? Etc, etc. Spaces is irritating, I just don't use it, Apple has a tendency to introduce new workspace and window management solutions and then abandon them. Yabai or Amethyst might be you closer to what you want (both open source). > And a…

I’m not sure about copyright infringed media but they are scanning for CSAM now.

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-communication-safety-nude-...

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Post by pabs3 »

borissk wrote: post #66
DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

>> is the largest corp contributor to Linux You're mostly right, but this is incorrect. MS was the largest kernel contributor for a few days 10 years ago, but overall companies like Intel, Google, Oracle and IBM contribute a lot more.

Some stats about that for Linux 6.4:

https://lwn.net/Articles/936113/

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Post by jongjong »

bruce511 wrote: post #68
DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

Agreed, it stings. I see it as a measure of how brainwashed/psychologically coerced the masses are. Why would a sentient, rational agent expend resources for an inferior product while a superior alternative exists which costs nothing.

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Post by SamuelAdams »

borissk wrote: post #234
trimethylpurine wrote: post #228

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But you need SSMS on a Windows client to manage it effectively. Unless you are doing everything cli, which is just not practical in the enterprise. Anyway, running it in Linux is pretty niche. Cool for show and tell, but you need balls of steel if you're going to try running even a small $100 million dollar business on it.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/azure-data-studio/down... It's fully supported by Microsoft on Linux, so if you run into technical problems you have a support line to call.

Last I checked, Azure data studio did not have feature parity with SSMS. Sure you can write TSQL, view and edit procedures. But that’s about where it ends.

You can’t deploy SSIS packages, can’t edit user accounts and permissions, can’t manage linked servers, etc. Sure you might not do those every day, but if you have to jump through all these hoops to do something I wouldn’t call ADS a full replacement.

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Post by wheels »

boudin wrote: post #273
wheels wrote: post #223

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Most of the time those packages, or the build files for them, are contributed by the distributions themselves, or avid users of those distros. (Reference: I have multiple software projects I've created that are a part of every Linux distribution. I've never packaged any of them myself.) Even big enterprise companies usually work directly with the distros under NDA, and the distros produce the packages. That works for…

What about distributing via Flatpak? (honest question, I'm curious to see if it actually help lowering the cost of distributing apps for Linux)

Doesn't work for things that are, or use plugins, which is typical in pro-audio. (Our software is primarily used as a plugin.)

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Post by forrestthewoods »

As a game dev who uses Windows threads like this are super interesting. I’m still moderately convinced that Linux users are suffering Stockholm Syndrome. Linux devs still don’t have a debugger as good as Visual Studio and insist that printf is good enough. Y’all are crazy and don’t realize how horrible your workflows are. IMHO. Of course it could be me that has Stockholm Syndrome!

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Post by qwytw »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #94
qwytw wrote: post #67

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There is more to an 'OS' than the kernel. SteamDecks are indistinguishable from PCs, since they run more or less exactly the same software as a Linux desktop/laptop would.

It’s still not a desktop PC. You’ll notice that iOS, Android and iPadOS aren’t included in the list either, even though the devices that run those operating systems can also replicate some subset of the desktop pc experience (and much more comprehensively than the steam deck can). At best it would be a general purpose mobile device, but even that is rather contrived. How many users do you imagine are using a steam de…

> that run those operating systems can also replicate some subset of the desktop pc experience

But Steam Deck is just running a fork of Arch not some other operating system. From analytics perspective it's indistinguishable to any Linux PC. Also IIRC you can just connect it a display which would turn into a desktop PC.

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Post by jongjong »

jorvi wrote: post #347
bruce511 wrote: post #68

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And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

By kilogram, there's more ants than humans on the world yet no one says ants dominate the world. Perception matters :)

Flies are clearly the master species.

There is a lot we can learn from a creature whose life purpose is eating shit all day, every day.

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Post by Gareth321 »

jorvi wrote: post #349
Gareth321 wrote: post #338

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> You accumulate software yes, but you also accumulate habits and knowledge. Changing OS means discarding all the accumulated knowledge, which 0% of "normal users" want to do. I only ever hear Linux users make this argument. Mac users are confident enough in MacOS UX that they know it’s not a significant barrier to transition. The same is not true of Linux. So many solutions to problems require opening the CLI, and t…

> Mac users are confident enough in MacOS UX that they know it’s not a significant barrier to transition I bought my mother a Macbook during the Snow Leopard era and we sold it after 2 months because she could absolutely not get used to the UI, since she had been using Windows since basically forever. So much for "intuitive UI".

Huh. My mother hand no issues. I guess your mileage may vary.
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