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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by kaba0 »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #195
bruce511 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

> And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). Depending on how you define "desktop" i would argue that Linux has a very big presence on the desktop. Considering the "new desktop" is a smartphone, and Android is based on Linux, that alone would account for a very large desktop presence.

Feel free to read the title as GNU/Linux.

Unfortunately there is no real “transmission” between the two, pretty much only the kernel is shared, absolutely nothing in userspace. Hell, it is ridiculously difficult to even run/emulate android on a normal linux distro.

Which is a shame, because while android’s model is far from perfect, it is definitely eons ahead of the traditional linux userspace, especially on the security front.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by kaba0 »

constantcrying wrote: post #140
bruce511 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

Who cares? I don't use Linux because it is or isn't popular. Who actually has an emotional bond to the market share of their software? I use Linux because it works for me and makes my life easier, is free/open and because I don't have to deal with Windows.

Market share/popularity correlates directly to amount of available software, and their support. So it is completely rational to care about these metrics.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by zirgs »

self_awareness wrote: post #104
ben0x539 wrote: post #85

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ok maybe i'm a sore loser, but looking at where the popular desktop OSes have been going going i think i'm fine with linux remaining an enthusiast thing

Exactly my thoughts. I think Linux is in a good sweet spot; popular enough so that applications advertise support for Linux, but not popular enough to be spoiled and optimized for the "casual" user.

SteamOS is being optimised for the "casual" user. SteamDeck is the best handheld console at the moment.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by borissk »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #204
borissk wrote: post #136

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>> Those who find the cloud services slow can just stop using them. Microsoft has made sure users can't stop using cloud services, unless they spend a ton of effort every time a new update that re-enables them is released. E.g. try to disable the web search in the Windows start menu. >> And there are 97% of the world like her and, 3% like you ;) If the 3% expert users switch away from Windows it will be the beginning…

I disabled it and haven't had any issues. Use group policy, quick web search, few steps to follow.

Wait a few months and MS will probably release an update that will break your fix.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by einpoklum »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

> the majority OS on phones

The kernel is not the operating system, even if it is a key component of it. Android phones do use the Linux kernel - well, not exactly; some kind of modified version of it - but they do not use the GNU/Linux operating system. The OS is different in many ways: Filesystem hierarchy, daemons/services, graphics stack, etc.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by DeathArrow »

hnlmorg wrote: post #114
bruce511 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

> If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it.

I'd take every day a native app running locally over a web app. And I am a web developer.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by fingerlocks »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #158
DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

> made by a company who makes more money off Linux than anything else, is the largest corp contributor to Linux, and has far more Linux machines internally than Windows ones, and hires software developers who do not develop for Windows. Huh? This is...totally wrong. Software devs at Microsoft are supplied with Windows machines by default, a lot of software is built on Microsoft-specific technologies like C#, and most…

You might be surprised.

My team only uses MacBooks at Microsoft. It’s true that I was forced to receive a PC, but it sits in a drawer collecting dust and only gets booted up when compliance throws a tantrum.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by kaba0 »

Nux wrote: post #166
self_awareness wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly my thoughts. I think Linux is in a good sweet spot; popular enough so that applications advertise support for Linux, but not popular enough to be spoiled and optimized for the "casual" user.

I think we're past the sweet spot, things are starting to go "casual user", you only need to check what Ubuntu and Fedora are pushing,in a way the "windows ification" of Linux: gnome 3/4,systemd+,snapd,telemetry etc.

Yeah, systemd is definitely there to lure in the casual users..

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by einpoklum »

wheels wrote: post #202
laserbeam wrote: post #34

Every once in a while I'm tempted to switch back to Linux (I used to have that as my desktop between 10 and 15 years ago), but then I remember: - My DJ software (which I pay for) is not supported at all on Linux (likewise true for most common music production software). - The Affinity suite (which I paid for) is not supported on Linux. - The best debugger I can find (remedybg, which I paid for) doesn't work there. -…

The lack of pro-audio software is definitely a thing. Mixxx is pretty good though for DJing. It's better than most of the rest of the pro-audio landscape on Linux. There are now also pretty good DAWs (Bitwig, especially). Releasing binaries is still a PITA for Linux. That's one of the main reason it has so little support from closed source consumer software. If you care, see my comment history on my company dropping…

> Releasing binaries is still a PITA for Linux.

Is it really that bad? I mean, many small FOSS programs provide packages for multiple distributions. Are they busting their balls building that stuff?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by Macha »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #203
Dylan16807 wrote: post #167

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If you daily drive it with a GUI, then it's close enough.

Can you think of any reasons why it may have been omitted from these statistics then?

Because it's derived from web browsing statistics, which is something people using it as a server and not a desktop don't do very much of
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