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Re: Thunderbird 115

#331

Just curious, does anyone of you know if it is possible to use Thunderbird as a library, somehow? Or is the UI too intertwined with the "mail engine" (i.e something managing IMAP, mbox, maildir, email indexing, etc)? I would be interested to experiment with my own mail client, if I can rely on an existing project like Thunderbird that would make it way simpler to get started :)

The codebase is huge and grown over decades, I doubt it would make anything simpler to start from that.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I download from Thunderbird and the messages are gone from the server of the provider. Of course I keep them there when I download in K9.

That's a disadvantage to me, because I pay my email provider in part for the reliability of not losing my emails, and also because I tend to access my email from several different devices and I want to make sure everything is synchronized. What's the advantage of downloading them all locally?

The reason in the reply of yetanother12345 plus that I don't need to access my mail from multiple devices.

When I'm working I always have access to my laptop with the complete mail archive.

When I'm not working I don't need the mail archive. Access to the latest mail in the POP3 server is enough. Proof is all these years since 1994. Furthermore I didn't have any access to my mail when away from my computer up to my first Android phone in 2011. Nothing bad happened to me and to the vast majority of people, which were handling mail in the same way pre smartphones. I mean: no access when on the move.

BTW, when I send mail from the phone I BCC myself so I'll download the message for permanent storage later on.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap

Product Manager here. The answer is because we are tied to the ESR release cycle we have to release at a certain time (we are working on changing this). So we're shipping all the work that is done and stable. There is still work to be done to the front-end and as much as people want to trivialize it, it's not so simple. To make the changes we did, we had to rewrite a very complicated front-end with some code that has…

Thank you for your dedication to this. I use Tbird every day, it is invaluable.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read mail first on my phone with K9 (the old UI) a few times per day and accept invitations there to put them on my phone, which is always with me. Then I download mail with Thunderbird a few times per week. I use my domain providers POP3 servers. Yes, they bundle a mailbox with each domain. It's also IMAP and webmail but POP3 is better for my use case.

> POP3 is better for my use case. Same here. I want to "receive" each message exactly once, not have it synced automatically all over the place. I only handle my email from either my desktop computer or my laptop, with a simple script to copy it all back and forth whenever I switch the device I am using. I was on call for my jobs for decades and never had any problems with this method, however it was before smartphon…

This made me remember that for a while I used unison to sync the Thunderbird mail directory of my laptop with my EEEPC netbook (remember those things?) because a cheap 1 kg small machine was perfect to carry around on one week vacations, just in case... Then smartphones happened and killed that use case.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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post #101

FYI, Thunderbird 115 is getting released tomorrow (July 11). Right now, if you visit the Thunderbird website [1] or try to look for updates within the application, you won't find this release version available (you can always get the beta release from the website). [1]: https://www.thunderbird.net/

And the beta is for 116. So there is no (sane) way to get the discussed and marketed 115.

It might not be sane by any means, but here are the current release candidates: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/candidates/115.0-can...

Re: Thunderbird 115

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post #330

Has Thunderbird still proper support for local mailboxes? I recently tried this, and all I found was local folders in maildir or mbox-format. But this won't recognize new mails added to them, making it useless for this demand. Did I miss something, or was this really removed at some point?

What do you mean by "new mails added to them"? I have Thunderbird set up with old emails I imported from Outlook Express in local folders and it seems to work fine. I don't really add new emails into them very often but I'm pretty sure it's fine?

I mean another application than Thunderbird is adding new mails to the mailbox. Which is the classical purpose of a mailbox. In my test Thunderbird had not recognized the new mails, and I'm not sure whether I just did something wrong, or Thunderbird does not have this ability anymore. After all, they don't offer local mailboxes in their account-settings anymore.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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post #116

The tone and level of entitlement of some comments is astonishing. Thunderbird is a free and open source tool, used by many (including me). The least we can do is to be a little nicer.

As the maintainer of CoreJS (Denis Pushkarev) said: Maintainers are the unsung heroes of the software world, pouring their hearts into creating vast amounts of value that often goes unappreciated. These unsung heroes perform critical work that enables all of modern technology to function – this is not an exaggeration. These tireless individuals dedicate themselves to writing new features, fixing bugs, answering user…

Is that the guy who tried to bully me into donating because one of my transitive dependencies used his npm spam?

Re: Thunderbird 115

#339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with complaining about a piece of software.

I think it's reasonable to criticize a piece of open source software, especially one backed by a non-profit, but not to be entitled or mean-spirited about it.

This. The original comment mentioned "tone and level of entitlement", not "constructive criticism"

Re: Thunderbird 115

#340

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

The interface won’t randomly be changed from under you every couple of years? On a more serious note, am I using my desktop so very differently? The idea that a web app could even come close to competing with a native app for me simply doesn’t compute.

> The interface won’t randomly be changed from under you every couple of years?

You mean like Thunderbird is doing here?

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