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Post by hospitalJail »

lukas099 wrote: post #214
siva7 wrote: post #92

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Could you explain why this is considered bad to just pick the muscle groups you want to train as a novice?

It's not actually bad, it's just not the current Internet fad. If you like to work out that way, you should do it.

Maybe, although do people have success doing strength training individual muscle groups? I've only heard of this for bodybuilding.

I don't think I'd put a beginner on a bodybuilding program.

Not to mention, compounds mean learning the correct form for 4 lifts, where isolation means learning the form for ~30 lifts.

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Post by kjkjadksj »

lukas099 wrote: post #206
Aerroon wrote: post #100

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> would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) But many people aren't going to follow those routines. It's my impression that deadlifts and squats aren't good exercises for this use case because of the danger they present. Sure, they might be "completely safe" when "done correctly", but somebody using an app and trying to mimic exercises they see in videos or pictures is only…

Post proof that deadlifts and squats present unique danger.

Compare a barbell squat to a bodyweight pistol squat. What does a beginner hitting failure look like with either? For the pistol squat you can’t get up and just maybe fall over 1 foot onto your yoga mat, or just use your other leg to balance and stand. The barbell back squat failure is absolutely ugly in comparison. You are down and can’t get up, maybe you try and push anyway with your back vs legs, thats a lot of weight supported by an out of form spine now, ooff. Knowing how and when to safely bail and drop weight out of an olympic lift is not something any beginner would just naturally know to do.

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

datavirtue wrote: post #176
morgengold wrote: post #96

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Why are Squats with weights “unhealthy”?

Because you can hold a squat with only body weight and improve faster that squatting with barbells.

That's absurd, like saying "You can walk a mile and improve faster than running a marathon" is absurd. To anyone who isn't out of shape to the point of immobility, body weight squats are barely exertion.

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Post by kjkjadksj »

_v7gu wrote: post #127
faichai wrote: post #94

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If you're new to lifting, your form is likely to be terrible, it's easy to do some damage to your lower back and knees.

If you are new to lifting, you probably shouldn’t be handling weights that can damage your lower back and knees. You will learn the correct form as you progress. Ego is more dangerous than squats.

This is why bodyweight or lower weight squats like goblet are safer. Failure with bodyweight squat doesnt put you out two months. Very easy to add too much weight in the squat rack. Asking beginners to know good form on day 1 squatting means they need a trainer.

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

addisonl wrote: post #196
davidguetta wrote: post #166

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Well you didn't read it then. It's actually extremely clear about doing DEADLIFT / SQUATS / BENCH PRESS/ CHIN or PULL UPS / OVERHEAD PRESS. I can understand you may not like the 'troll' / provocative way of writing tho, it's not for everybody

A massive article filled with ranting and raving is anything but “extremely clear”

A massive article filled with ranting and raving which eventually communicates a point is many things, possibly including "extremely clear".

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Post by haswell »

davidguetta wrote: post #166
jeffhuys wrote: post #154

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That link does a lot of talking without really explaining what you DO have to do.

Well you didn't read it then. It's actually extremely clear about doing DEADLIFT / SQUATS / BENCH PRESS/ CHIN or PULL UPS / OVERHEAD PRESS. I can understand you may not like the 'troll' / provocative way of writing tho, it's not for everybody

> I can understand you may not like the 'troll' / provocative way of writing tho, it's not for everybody

Not the other commenter, but some feedback: while I’m not a fan of the writing style, and I’m ok with that, my issue is really presentation and information density.

It takes a rather dedicated reader to find useful information in between paragraph after paragraph of ranting. And since I’m not skilled at lifting, I’m more interested in hearing what you think is useful than wading through a dozen ways to belittle what people are already doing.

I think you could increase your reach by making the problem/solution clearer. I’m just starting to dabble with weights, and I’m actively seeking good resources. I’m not inclined to add your blog to my research plan based on this.

Hoping this comes across as constructive and in the spirit it was intended.

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Post by hooverd »

atchoo wrote: post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

> "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching.

adjust your priors, bro.

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Post by davidguetta »

haswell wrote: post #227
davidguetta wrote: post #166

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Well you didn't read it then. It's actually extremely clear about doing DEADLIFT / SQUATS / BENCH PRESS/ CHIN or PULL UPS / OVERHEAD PRESS. I can understand you may not like the 'troll' / provocative way of writing tho, it's not for everybody

> I can understand you may not like the 'troll' / provocative way of writing tho, it's not for everybody Not the other commenter, but some feedback: while I’m not a fan of the writing style, and I’m ok with that, my issue is really presentation and information density. It takes a rather dedicated reader to find useful information in between paragraph after paragraph of ranting. And since I’m not skilled at lifting, I…

I'm not the author of the article. But if you want a provocative answer:

In general your attitude is wanting easy shiny articles instead of really going deep in why and what works well or no, going past the writing style, especially when it's told by someone who is showing many results for him and others well... you kind of illustrate the point of people who end up with shiny and useless workout, don't eventually stick to the gym because "they don't feel like it" at some point.

No one really serious about sports (either lifting or martial arts) is going to spend more time pleasing you or make you feel better if you're not able to see that results speak for themselves. You have to be self motivated, it's not my job to do it. I've seen article mentionned at least 10 times as "best fitness article". If you don't like the style when it's one of the best articles, it's your problem, not the author's one.

But if you really want an answer for you if you are starting => just do the "starting strength" program. It's the simplest one and most effective. When you can bench 100kg in 3 months, you can read more about leangains.

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Post by davidguetta »

lukas099 wrote: post #202
davidguetta wrote: post #139

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Yeah, the idea is great ("what can you do with the equipment you have") but that also kinda promote a bit of fuckarounditis ( https://leangains.com/fuckarounditis/ ) by asking the user "what muscle do you really wanna target", instead of emphasizing a better approach of lifting overall which is strong "functional" compound movements such as the big 6 (bench press / squat / deadlift / pull ups / rows / overhead press)

Post proof that your preferred style of workout is better overall.

I don't care about proving it to you at all. There's thousands of bodybuilding ressources on the net if you're really interested, and the website I linked show a lof of before / after pictures.

And in reality it's not better than any other one that focuses on the big 6. What I like wit LG is that the idea is to be "very focused on what really matters" which is compound motions and reaching failure points. Personally I got results with 3x40 min workout per week, which is very small. And it's not just the workout, you have to follow a precise (natural) diet.

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