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Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

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Post by bjornasm »

herculity275 wrote: post #59

I do feel like most beginner/intermediate lifters with gym access would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) and sticking to it. Figuring out which muscle groups you'd like to be targeting with specialized exercises is not something you should be doing as a novice.

I disagree with you. Its over 10 years ago I medaled in an national powerlifting competition. Nowadays I just want to lift some weights, and have no intention of following a set program ad I have no end goals other than to keep healthy and fit. I'm pretty sure im not the only one who likes some variation without going full crossfit.

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Post by lukas099 »

davidguetta wrote: post #139
atchoo wrote: post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

Yeah, the idea is great ("what can you do with the equipment you have") but that also kinda promote a bit of fuckarounditis ( https://leangains.com/fuckarounditis/ ) by asking the user "what muscle do you really wanna target", instead of emphasizing a better approach of lifting overall which is strong "functional" compound movements such as the big 6 (bench press / squat / deadlift / pull ups / rows / overhead press)

Post proof that your preferred style of workout is better overall.

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Post by bjornasm »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #194
Brendinooo wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure exactly what you’re arguing here but I think I disagree quite a bit. I’ve been lifting for about six months, and I think this is the longest stretch I’ve been able to go without getting bored with it, because I’m at a gym this time and have access to a ton of equipment. Variety can really make a difference, and some will say it’s good for your muscles anyways to do different exercises that are targeting the…

Variety can make the difference in motivation. If that's what you lack, then so be it. But it's detrimental to a progressive/scienctific-like approach to lifting. We want to know that over time we're getting progressive overload. That means you need consistency to watch that 1) The weight goes up for the same reps, or 2) the reps go up for the same weight (or 3, both). Unfortunately exercises are not direct replaceme…

>But it's detrimental to a progressive/scienctific-like approach to lifting.

Uh, sources for that? As I powerlifter I have lifted with world class lifter who have a huge variations in their exercises. Bands,chains, boxes, pause/no pause, grip width, stance width.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

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Post by lukas099 »

admiral33 wrote: post #181
atchoo wrote: post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

I agree. OP made a nice site for exploring different types of movements for a muscle group. That being said the simplicity seems geared towards those just starting out with training but the site surfaces too many (in my experience) accessory exercises and movements I wouldn't try without a PT guiding me. If you are a true beginner and you are drawn to a site like OP's you're probably looking for a training program. Y…

I don't really think compounds save all that much time because the rest period required for them is so much longer than for isolation movements. If you prefer compounds, great (so do I), but there's been so much gospel online about them and I don't think it's substantiated.

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Post by lukas099 »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #194
Brendinooo wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure exactly what you’re arguing here but I think I disagree quite a bit. I’ve been lifting for about six months, and I think this is the longest stretch I’ve been able to go without getting bored with it, because I’m at a gym this time and have access to a ton of equipment. Variety can really make a difference, and some will say it’s good for your muscles anyways to do different exercises that are targeting the…

Variety can make the difference in motivation. If that's what you lack, then so be it. But it's detrimental to a progressive/scienctific-like approach to lifting. We want to know that over time we're getting progressive overload. That means you need consistency to watch that 1) The weight goes up for the same reps, or 2) the reps go up for the same weight (or 3, both). Unfortunately exercises are not direct replaceme…

Post proof that exercise variety is detrimental to achieving lifting goals. I'll concede that if you are competing in a strength sport, it is best to focus on the movements in that sport.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

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Post by lukas099 »

Aerroon wrote: post #100
herculity275 wrote: post #59

I do feel like most beginner/intermediate lifters with gym access would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) and sticking to it. Figuring out which muscle groups you'd like to be targeting with specialized exercises is not something you should be doing as a novice.

> would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) But many people aren't going to follow those routines. It's my impression that deadlifts and squats aren't good exercises for this use case because of the danger they present. Sure, they might be "completely safe" when "done correctly", but somebody using an app and trying to mimic exercises they see in videos or pictures is only…

Post proof that deadlifts and squats present unique danger.

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Post by herculity275 »

bjornasm wrote: post #201
herculity275 wrote: post #59

I do feel like most beginner/intermediate lifters with gym access would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) and sticking to it. Figuring out which muscle groups you'd like to be targeting with specialized exercises is not something you should be doing as a novice.

I disagree with you. Its over 10 years ago I medaled in an national powerlifting competition. Nowadays I just want to lift some weights, and have no intention of following a set program ad I have no end goals other than to keep healthy and fit. I'm pretty sure im not the only one who likes some variation without going full crossfit.

But you're not a novice, you clearly know what you're doing. I'm saying that somebody who's just starting out and doesn't know how to do a proper squat shouldn't be tinkering with their sets too much.

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Post by dehrmann »

davidguetta wrote: post #139
atchoo wrote: post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

Yeah, the idea is great ("what can you do with the equipment you have") but that also kinda promote a bit of fuckarounditis ( https://leangains.com/fuckarounditis/ ) by asking the user "what muscle do you really wanna target", instead of emphasizing a better approach of lifting overall which is strong "functional" compound movements such as the big 6 (bench press / squat / deadlift / pull ups / rows / overhead press)

> fuckarounditis

Just punched in my muscles for today, and I'd agree.

It's leg and core day. For legs, it gave me barbell suitcase deadlifts and barbell Bulgarian split squats. They're not bad, but they overcomplicate things, and this is especially bad for beginners. What I'm actually going to do are squats and RDLs.

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Post by lukas099 »

somethingreen wrote: post #184
_v7gu wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting strength is the most classic one: https://startingstrength.com/get-started/programs Or you know, you could go into a couple of fitness forums and see which programs pop up again and again.

Please don't do SS as a beginner, unless you are sure lifting heavy is what you want and are positive you'll be able to get through setbacks. Absolutely, read SS the book and apply its wisdom to corresponding lifts in the bodybuilding program you'll pick up instead. Then, once you are comfortable in the gym, slowly progress to add heavier lifts/sessions into your program. From there decide if you want to prioritize e…

The main problem with SS for me is that encourages you to push through extreme exhaustion, because weight resets are based on failure to complete reps, and completely ignore Rate of Perceived Exertion (RPE). I got a lot stronger on SS, but the last few weeks were killer and ended with injuries for me.

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Post by makestuff »

atchoo wrote: post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

For anyone else just starting out this seems to be highly suggested for beginners https://www.boostcamp.app/reddit-ppl.

I have been doing it for a few months and the app makes it really easy to track. They have a premium version that lets you sub workouts or you can "donate" to the creator of the program. I gave them like $10 since I have gotten so much value out of it.

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