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Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

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I don't need a workout routine. I need someone that checks if I arrive at the gym. There is no service for that. Once I am at the gym I work out.

Two options:

-- Accountability Coach

-- Personal trainer

Of the 2, personal trainer is probably better if you are new to the gym (been lifting 0-2 years) because they will also help you nail technique/form so you don't get yourself injured swinging around ego lifts.

You don't have to pay a lot for this either - don't get the $120/hr folks at big 24 hour gyms, find a private gym where one trainer might be working with about 6-8 folks at any one time. They will queue up each set of exercises for you, check your form and then do the same for someone else while you are doing the bulk of the work.

The place I go to charges $45 per 90 minute session for this and it's great. I don't need to figure out my workout, track my weights/reps for progressive overload or anything. They take care of all of that. I just show up, do the work and get on with my day.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#193
post #83

Love the low barrier of entry! Would love if you added stretching. Great job.

Weight lifting done properly IS stretching. Full range of motion is a big deal for hypertrophy.

Static stretching is essentially worthless, and can actually be detrimental to performance: https://journals.lww.com/acsm-csmr/Fulltext/2014/05000/The_E....

The thing to do for weight lifting is do some light warm up cardio (5-10 minutes on your favorite hamster wheel variant - elliptical, treadmill, bike) to get your core temp up, then do a few warm up sets before big compound movements to improve blood flow to the target muscles and lubricate the joints.

Before doing your working sets on bench/squat/deadlift, do a few sets at a much lower weight. Like this:

Warm-up set 1: Start with the empty bar and warm up for a few reps there.

Warm-Up Set 2: 40-50% of your first set x 5 reps (if the empty bar falls into this percentage- skip this step).

Warm-Up Set 3: 60-65% of your first set x 3-5 reps

Warm-Up Set 4: 70-80% of your first set x 3 reps

Warm-up set 5: 85-90% of your first set x 1-3 reps

Warm-Up Set 6: 90-95% of your first set x 1-3 reps

Now do your working sets.

If you aren't lifting that much weight (bench press for example) you can skip a few of these and start at say 60-65% of your working weight.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#194

I do feel like most beginner/intermediate lifters with gym access would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) and sticking to it. Figuring out which muscle groups you'd like to be targeting with specialized exercises is not something you should be doing as a novice.

Not sure exactly what you’re arguing here but I think I disagree quite a bit. I’ve been lifting for about six months, and I think this is the longest stretch I’ve been able to go without getting bored with it, because I’m at a gym this time and have access to a ton of equipment. Variety can really make a difference, and some will say it’s good for your muscles anyways to do different exercises that are targeting the…

Variety can make the difference in motivation. If that's what you lack, then so be it.

But it's detrimental to a progressive/scienctific-like approach to lifting.

We want to know that over time we're getting progressive overload. That means you need consistency to watch that 1) The weight goes up for the same reps, or 2) the reps go up for the same weight (or 3, both). Unfortunately exercises are not direct replacements for each other meaning you cannot simply do the same for a variety of (eg:) bicep curls.

Once someone gets past what linear progression can achieve (see Strong lifts 5x5 app for example) then we start to do periodization or other plateau breaking patterns.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#195
post #98

I do feel like most beginner/intermediate lifters with gym access would be better served just picking a standard full-body workout routine (e.g. GZCLP) and sticking to it. Figuring out which muscle groups you'd like to be targeting with specialized exercises is not something you should be doing as a novice.

“Just picking a standard full-body workout routine” - that’s the issue, I have no idea what the names of standard routines are or where to find them. I’d love to know several. I know none. Like many things, knowing the name or term of what you’re looking for is the gateway - without that you’re stuck floundering.

Here's one that I came up with. Little science, but it's worked wonders on me.

Simply do 5 sets of 5 reps of the following exercises in groups. Do 2-3x per week as your schedule allows. You can super set the push/pull exercise, but not the leg. Take no less than 1 minute rest between the PP supersets, or the leg sets.

1. Bench press , Row, Squat

2. Overhead press, Pull up (weighted if need be), Deadlift

3. Bicep curl, Tricep press, calves

4. Abs, core, or lower back (1x per week)

Other details

- if the workout takes longer than you have time for, you can break up the 1-4 across more days (eg lift 4 or 6 days a week with pattern of 1&3, 2&4, 1&3, 2&4 (1&3, 2&4)

- add some weight every workout, even if it's the minimum 2.5 plates, or buy 1.25 micro plates to bring to the gym - once you are unable to add weight every workout, start to try and add weight every week - Every 12 weeks take a 1 week deload where you do 3x 10 reps of the above with about 50% of what you can actually lift

If you're a "hard gainer" continue with the above and for a 12 week block try the following tactics.

1. Eat a costco rotisserie chicken each day (or equivalent calories + grams of protein in any other food)

2. Add a Liter, Half Gallon, or Gallon of milk (progressively experiment starting small), Or equivalent calories and grams of protein

If you follow the above consistently for a year or two you will be ahead of something like 95% of gym goers. You might be behind optimal, but you'll be way ahead of most people.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link does a lot of talking without really explaining what you DO have to do.

Well you didn't read it then. It's actually extremely clear about doing DEADLIFT / SQUATS / BENCH PRESS/ CHIN or PULL UPS / OVERHEAD PRESS. I can understand you may not like the 'troll' / provocative way of writing tho, it's not for everybody

A massive article filled with ranting and raving is anything but “extremely clear”

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://startingstrength.com/get-started

Thank you. That website is a LOT less pretentious.

Leangains is a relic of time. Martin Berkharn(the guy who made it) was a VERY prolific poster on the bodybuilding.com forums around 2005-2012 or something like that. The tone of his entire brand is born out of that forum and style of communication. You had to fight for your life on there if you wanted to communicate.

I'm not excusing his tone btw just explaining.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#198
post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

>For a beginner, they won't know it's dumb, so this is kind of harmful.

Oh please its not harmful to do deadlifts with a bar and then kettlebells or whatever.

> What I find most useful is deep dive discussion by an expert for most effective exercises and how to get the most of out of them with subtleties about grips and cues to increase mind-muscle-connection etc. Suggestions for how to swap out exercises to work around injuries or focus on weak points is very useful. The lifter can then iterate and swap exercises in and out of their routine to keep it fresh and useful.

And that is fine and can be found at your physio, a great yourube channel, online coach, some crossfit, powerlifting or weightlifting coaches. But that was probably not the aim of this webapp.

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#199
post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

I have to agree. It suggested 13 exercises for me, most of which I've never heard of and have no desire to learn. I'll stick with squat/deadlift/weighted pullups every day - no need to complicate shit.

Then this is not the site for you obviously. Why would you want a excercise suggestion app if you only want to do these tree excercises?

Re: Show HN: Workout.lol – a web app to easily create a workout routine

#200
post #136

Everyone is very complementary so can I be allowed to be the debbie downer? As a web app, it's neat! Functionally, not a fan as yet. I've lifted for a couple of decades. I put in the muscles for a pull workout I will be doing today and the results are... dumb. "Dumbbell superman" nah not going to do that. Two types of hammer curl? Nah that's a waste of time. "Bayesian hammer curl" wtf, my eye is twitching. Two types…

>For a beginner, they won't know it's dumb, so this is kind of harmful. Oh please its not harmful to do deadlifts with a bar and then kettlebells or whatever. > What I find most useful is deep dive discussion by an expert for most effective exercises and how to get the most of out of them with subtleties about grips and cues to increase mind-muscle-connection etc. Suggestions for how to swap out exercises to work aro…

Harmful as in giving bad advice.
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