Thunderbird 115

Post by delfinom » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 12:46 PM UTC

speed_spread wrote: post #100

nik736 wrote: post #16

What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap

I hate that "modern" nowadays equals "looks like VS code". Give me a menu and a toolbar with clearly associated keyboard shortcuts, I don't need a second dock (or even a first, i'm not on Mac). Tabletified webuis are inane for power users.

Post by ulrikrasmussen » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 12:47 PM UTC

jimaek wrote: post #120

kristofferR wrote: post #109

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Agree. The differences between the mock-up [1] and the finished version [2] are both quite small, yet make a massive difference in the perceived quality. [1] https://2165533704-files.gitbook.io/~/files/v0/b/gitbook-x-p... [2] https://www.thunderbird.net/media/img/thunderbird/whatsnew/1... The search bar looks good in the mock-up, but bad in the final version due to not being centered, despite being really similar.

Oh wow that's a huge difference. The first one looks like polished quality software while the second one looks like some junky app made by a solo dev on his free time that doesn't care how it looks like

Post by nerdponx » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 12:49 PM UTC

toyg wrote: post #72

joiqj wrote: post #43

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First, I don't think they'll be able to. I have had the displeasure of using their web Outlook client and it was absurdly buggy for a software company of the stature of Microsoft. I can only imagine how terrible the web version of a complex software like Excel will be. Not to mention the poor performance. There's no way they will lose all of their finance customers like that... but, it's Microsoft, so... who knows. S…

> I can only imagine how terrible the web version of a complex software like Excel will be. It's actually not that terrible, but I believe it's nowhere near feature parity. Not to mention there is a galaxy of add-ons that still need to be rewritten from scratch to work on the web version, and a lot of people cannot live without them. Excel is a classic case of 80% of users requiring 20% of all functionality, but that…

Post by arsome » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 12:49 PM UTC

jimaek wrote: post #120

kristofferR wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree. The differences between the mock-up [1] and the finished version [2] are both quite small, yet make a massive difference in the perceived quality. [1] https://2165533704-files.gitbook.io/~/files/v0/b/gitbook-x-p... [2] https://www.thunderbird.net/media/img/thunderbird/whatsnew/1... The search bar looks good in the mock-up, but bad in the final version due to not being centered, despite being really similar.

Oh wow that's a huge difference. The first one looks like polished quality software while the second one looks like some junky app made by a solo dev on his free time that doesn't care how it looks like

Post by nerdponx » Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 12:50 PM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #87

jraph wrote: post #11

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Calendar in the mail client is very useful since invitations are sent by mail. You click accept, the recipient knows you did and the event is added to your calendar. But indeed if you don't use it it does not get in the way, which is perfect.

I read mail first on my phone with K9 (the old UI) a few times per day and accept invitations there to put them on my phone, which is always with me. Then I download mail with Thunderbird a few times per week. I use my domain providers POP3 servers. Yes, they bundle a mailbox with each domain. It's also IMAP and webmail but POP3 is better for my use case.