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#41

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

My operating system has quite good window management and I hate to have everything collapsed down into a linear row of tabs in one window.

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post #28
post #8

I appreciate that they have maintained information density. otoh I think they should try and stick as much as possible to the looks of the OS where thunderbird is running - you are building a desktop application, not a website. Of course it's pretty hard when not even microsoft seems to know what Windows should look like.

Remind you, that Microsoft wants go get rid of its Microsoft Office and will make it a Website only.

First, I don't think they'll be able to. I have had the displeasure of using their web Outlook client and it was absurdly buggy for a software company of the stature of Microsoft. I can only imagine how terrible the web version of a complex software like Excel will be. Not to mention the poor performance. There's no way they will lose all of their finance customers like that... but, it's Microsoft, so... who knows.

Second, Office hasn't really looked like Windows for like... the past 20 years.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#44

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

They are great for managing multiple email accounts in the one place. Also for me, browsers are kind of ephemeral - I open and close them quite a bit. Whereas I have Thunderbird open constantly in its own separate workspace.

There's also the local backup point that others have mentioned.

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#45
post #11

I’ve been using the beta for some weeks, and it’s fantastic. snappy fast, and makes me feel in control. I’m not using (and probably never will) any of the non-email features like the calendar, or the chat. But they are relatively hidden away, so they don’t bother me.

Calendar in the mail client is very useful since invitations are sent by mail. You click accept, the recipient knows you did and the event is added to your calendar. But indeed if you don't use it it does not get in the way, which is perfect.

did they fix the problem where the calendar account must be the same as the email account? My email is on zimbra but since the zimbra calendar is isolated, I use a google calendar from another email account because I can use it with reclaim.ai, share calendars and use it on my phone.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#46

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Gmail is good? I am not seeing it. It's a weird 90s gui which is hard to discover. For my use case both round cube and afterlogic webmail lite are better than gmail. I don't use my company account there. (My rspamd based spam protection is better too)

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#47
Will there be a way to show search results in list view by default, instead of the useless “most relevant” view? Everything else about Thunderbird is pretty great but this is so annoying.

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#48
post #8

I appreciate that they have maintained information density. otoh I think they should try and stick as much as possible to the looks of the OS where thunderbird is running - you are building a desktop application, not a website. Of course it's pretty hard when not even microsoft seems to know what Windows should look like.

Thunderbird, for better or worse, has always had its own unique look. The reason is pretty simple. They don’t have the resources to create a “universal” design that works across OSes.

And multi platform capabilities are one of the top goals for Thunderbird.

I think it makes sense that they accept they’re unlikely to achieve a decent OS specific look and therefore they’re focused on creating its own unique style.

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#49

> unified folders Actually that's the worst anti-feature for an email client.

Lots of people find unified folders extremely useful.

They’re completely pointless for me, because different email accounts represent different contexts for me.

But there’s a lot of people who’ve created a gmail account, a hotmail account, have a their ISP account, etc for no particular reason other than the fact that they created an account when these services came by.

A unified folder is extremely useful for such people.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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post #34
post #6

I hope I can opt back into the more dense display that we currently have. Some other parts look quite nice however.

I really don't understand this. It already looks a little too clumped to me, what's the benefit to further putting things closer to one another? It's not like you're doing some kind of additive transformation and you need to quickly jump between lines, each email is its own thing and you can only read one at a time. If you need to find specific ones you can always categorize them or use the search functionality. I'm…

Being able to quickly scan a large list of emails without scrolling is practical and useful. All whitespace achieves is aesthetics, which are meaningless beyond initial adoption.

My work email rarely exist in a vacuum, they exist in the context of all my other work emails.

The ability to actually cross reference and get work done quickly should always trump aesthetics. These modern “spaced out” UIs are infuriating, they achieve nothing other than requiring more scrolling.

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