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Re: Thunderbird 115

#31

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Multiple reasons:

* not all of my email accounts are hosted by Google/Microsoft

* I want one email client to manage all of my email

* I want offline access and local search

Other then that, I am also not a fan of gmails web interface and the way it handles emails.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#32

> unified folders Actually that's the worst anti-feature for an email client.

As long as there is a way to disable it, or there is a unified view along with the individual email views. I quite like unified views considering I have three email accounts I need to view, and I don't see the downside of this view as long as when I reply, it automatically replies from the address it was sent to.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#33

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Because I don't want to have my Emails in the cloud. That is true for many companies.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#34
post #6

I hope I can opt back into the more dense display that we currently have. Some other parts look quite nice however.

I really don't understand this. It already looks a little too clumped to me, what's the benefit to further putting things closer to one another? It's not like you're doing some kind of additive transformation and you need to quickly jump between lines, each email is its own thing and you can only read one at a time. If you need to find specific ones you can always categorize them or use the search functionality. I'm just confused by statements like this.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#35
post #16

What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap

Designer mockups and the actual end result don't always end up being the exact same for various reasons. Nothing a little CSS won't change, from what I can tell the biggest difference is the contrast on the panel edges and the background on the read/unread/selected messages.

The road map does state Q4 2022 as a target so I imagine the work has just taken too much time already and the version 115 deadline wasn't made.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#36

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Outlook.com only loads successfully about one time out of ten for me. Same as MS Teams web app. I've tried all the recommendations around third party cookies, no dice.

Gmail has weird limitations around non Gmail accounts. You can only add up to five, and they get checked randomly - sometimes only once an hour but mostly around 20 minutes. There's no way to force a check. This is a ridiculous limitation - imagine having to wait that long for an email log in code, for example.

If I only used one Gmail account there would be no reason to use Thunderbird. Now I have something like 7 or 8 email addresses across several businesses and a real, reliable email client is vital.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#37
post #16

What happened to the look that was announced? [0] The announcement was way more modern than the screenshot that is shown now. [0]: https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap

All those concepts are made by people who don't use computers on iPads.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#38

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Gmail and outlook are absolutely atrocious. Gmail can't even search properly, which is what you'd expect from a cloud.

Searching through gigabytes of mail is trivial on a desktop but way too expensive to do on the cloud.

So much quicker, webmail is incredibly slow no matter what hardware and internet you have.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#39

> unified folders Actually that's the worst anti-feature for an email client.

Yet many users rely on it every day.

You don't have to use the feature if you don't unified folders, but that doesn't mean other people don't want it.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#40

Just be curious why are people still using email client other than web based one? Gmail or outlook 365 is quite good, and I think most people will have one web browser opened always.

Local copies of your email, your own mail servers, would be a couple of reasons.
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