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Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by badsectoracula »

diarrhea wrote: post #57

Putting the search bar front-and-center in both the application and this announcement, I hope the backend implementation is now able to keep up? The one use case I switch to my mail provider's webmail UI for is search. I mentally sigh a little bit each time I realise I have to search through my email. Thunderbird's search has been among the worst I have ever come across, sadly. Functional search would be a killer fea…

One thing i've noticed is that the search bar is awful at finding anything, but the search tool (Ctrl+Shift+F) works much better.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#72

Post by toyg »

joiqj wrote: post #43
PinguTS wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind you, that Microsoft wants go get rid of its Microsoft Office and will make it a Website only.

First, I don't think they'll be able to. I have had the displeasure of using their web Outlook client and it was absurdly buggy for a software company of the stature of Microsoft. I can only imagine how terrible the web version of a complex software like Excel will be. Not to mention the poor performance. There's no way they will lose all of their finance customers like that... but, it's Microsoft, so... who knows. S…

> I can only imagine how terrible the web version of a complex software like Excel will be.

It's actually not that terrible, but I believe it's nowhere near feature parity. Not to mention there is a galaxy of add-ons that still need to be rewritten from scratch to work on the web version, and a lot of people cannot live without them.

Excel is a classic case of 80% of users requiring 20% of all functionality, but that 20% being different for each user. Still, Microsoft made it very clear that the future is web-first.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

reacharavindh wrote: post #68
diarrhea wrote: post #57

Putting the search bar front-and-center in both the application and this announcement, I hope the backend implementation is now able to keep up? The one use case I switch to my mail provider's webmail UI for is search. I mentally sigh a little bit each time I realise I have to search through my email. Thunderbird's search has been among the worst I have ever come across, sadly. Functional search would be a killer fea…

I have always wondered this. When a site like "MAterial for Mkdocs" can implement such a featureful search (with autocomplete, spellcorrect and such) in a browser for a website, how could it be this hard for a desktop application with several orders of magnitude of resources at its disposal?

There’s no technical reason, it’s just a poor implementation.

I use “notmuch” for email and it can index over two decades of emails in seconds. Search is then instantaneous.

TBH, thunderbird could just use notmuch under the hood.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#75

Post by PinguTS »

joiqj wrote: post #43
PinguTS wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind you, that Microsoft wants go get rid of its Microsoft Office and will make it a Website only.

First, I don't think they'll be able to. I have had the displeasure of using their web Outlook client and it was absurdly buggy for a software company of the stature of Microsoft. I can only imagine how terrible the web version of a complex software like Excel will be. Not to mention the poor performance. There's no way they will lose all of their finance customers like that... but, it's Microsoft, so... who knows. S…

Microsoft Outlook is already a web app at its core: "The point here being that Mail and Calendar are native Windows applications, whereas the new Outlook for Windows is essentially a web app at its core, from what we can tell."

Native is dead as it seems, at least for he Microsoft Office Team.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/20/microsoft_calendar_ma...

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by conaclos »

badsectoracula wrote: post #71
diarrhea wrote: post #57

Putting the search bar front-and-center in both the application and this announcement, I hope the backend implementation is now able to keep up? The one use case I switch to my mail provider's webmail UI for is search. I mentally sigh a little bit each time I realise I have to search through my email. Thunderbird's search has been among the worst I have ever come across, sadly. Functional search would be a killer fea…

One thing i've noticed is that the search bar is awful at finding anything, but the search tool (Ctrl+Shift+F) works much better.

Same here. I am exclusively using the quick filter box (Ctrl+Shift+K). I would like that the filter bar be never hidden.

Re: Thunderbird 115

#77

Post by zvmaz »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #73
reacharavindh wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always wondered this. When a site like "MAterial for Mkdocs" can implement such a featureful search (with autocomplete, spellcorrect and such) in a browser for a website, how could it be this hard for a desktop application with several orders of magnitude of resources at its disposal?

There’s no technical reason, it’s just a poor implementation. I use “notmuch” for email and it can index over two decades of emails in seconds. Search is then instantaneous. TBH, thunderbird could just use notmuch under the hood.

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Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by impissedoff1 »

tekknolagi wrote: post #19

At this point, whenever something says "maximize your freedoms" and does not explain further, I think it is adding spyware or otherwise restricting my choices. Decades of US policy doublespeak, I guess...

Don't worry, they just pipeline your emails directly to google now for 'verification' for your protection. Mozilla is a sellout

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

diarrhea wrote: post #57

Putting the search bar front-and-center in both the application and this announcement, I hope the backend implementation is now able to keep up? The one use case I switch to my mail provider's webmail UI for is search. I mentally sigh a little bit each time I realise I have to search through my email. Thunderbird's search has been among the worst I have ever come across, sadly. Functional search would be a killer fea…

I prefer thunderbird because of the search functionality. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just consider it the least worst, they’re all horribly bad.

Re: Thunderbird 115

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Post by cortic »

Wonder what the hard-drive footprint this takes now, my version; 60.9.1(32-bit) takes 126MB and i consider that bloated for what it is. At the Thunderbird 60.9 release mark; Pegasus footprint was 30MB, Opera Mail was 38MB, Sylpheed was 28MB, even the Bat was only 50MB.

I run Thunderbird portable from a data pen, which is why this metric is important to me (i realize it won't be for the majority of users).

Edit; Okay i know i could buy a bigger data pen, but i also do weekly backups to the cloud and am limited to 7mbps upload, 2g takes 40 minutes, so every bit i can shave off helps. But i want to emphasize i realize it won't be important for the majority of users

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