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Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by Loughla »

CrazyStat wrote: post #231
akira2501 wrote: post #151

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> My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere I've tried this on other platforms. The device gets heavy and your eyes get hot and sweaty, and dealing with an extension cord running from your head to a battery pack just adds insult to the inconvenience. It's not fun and it was not a major boost to productivity. Plus.. for $3,500 I can just buy quite a few nice monitors.

> Plus.. for $3,500 I can just buy quite a few nice monitors. Yeah, but you can't use them in planes or hotel rooms very easily.

For real though, If I ever see someone wearing one of these on a plane and Dilbert air finger keyboarding, I'm going to draw a penis on their head.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by throw03172019 »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

I’ve walked in and bought an iPhone, AirPods (Pro/Max), Apple Watch, MBP without any issues. In and out. Bay Area apple stores.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by NBJack »

kreitje wrote: post #281
hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

A few years back I bought a MBP online with the pickup option. I picked it up, declined their assistance setting it up and went about my day. I get home later that day, start to set it up and it’s locked to employees of a bank in Canada. Live support is no help so I take it back, only to find out the serial number did not match that on the box. They had their security guard quietly come stand near me until they figur…

Did they not scan both??? Many big box retail stores have to scan both the box and the barcode of the item through it (i.e. a Playstation) before the transaction can be completed. Yikes.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by mr_toad »

threeseed wrote: post #220
Jarmsy wrote: post #182

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All I've seen so far suggests they're almost entirely focused on virtual 2d screens floating in 3d space, and not other virtual 3d objects at all.

They had many WWDC sessions covering 3D objects especially with the Unity integration [1] and their Reality Composer Pro [2] tool. Both were covered during the keynote. And if you look on Youtube there are countless videos of third party developers developing 3D apps. It's just that they are positioning the device as a spatial computer i.e. something you use to get real work done. And right now for 99% of people that…

> And if you look on Youtube there are countless videos of third party developers developing 3D apps.

Why developers want to make, and what consumers want aren’t necessarily the same thing.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by hnick »

dcormier wrote: post #466
BenFranklin100 wrote: post #462

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This has not been my experience at all. I walk in (or make an appt beforehand for the sake of convenience), tell the what I want, plop down my credit card, and I am out of there in 20 minutes tops. Super smooth, professional experience.

Twenty minutes sounds like a long time to walk in, get something you already know you want, pay, and walk out.

Longer than it took me to show up at the Chinese restaurant last night, decide on an order, pay, wait for them to cook the food, and walk out with it.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by NBJack »

crooked-v wrote: post #299
hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

The giant reason to do this with the headset in particular is that getting it wrong means a literally painful and/or nauseous experience. Meta is willing to let that happen with its $300 headsets mostly bought as gifts for children, but the bar is a lot higher for a $3500 device and Apple is already acutely aware of the blowback from "you're holding it wrong"-type scenarios.

I think this is a valid reason, and hopefully the driving factor.

On the other hand, Apple certainly seems to bank on making their devices as exclusive an experience as possible. They sell a huge amount, but they want the customer to feel like they are part of an elite group. This will heighten the artificial sense of scarcity.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by mr_toad »

dev_tty01 wrote: post #406
unreal37 wrote: post #301

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It's not a gaming device. It's two tiny iPads that you can put right up to your eyes and use hand movements to control.

Hmm. Are you aware that mobile gaming revenue is larger than console and PC and that the majority of mobile gaming revenue comes from iOS (iPad and iPhone)? https://www.businessofapps.com/data/mobile-games-revenue/

People aren’t going to be wearing these on the train or in the back of an all staff meeting playing 3D games.

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Post by flybrand »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

I've felt the opposite. The last two purchases I walked in and bought exactly what I wanted on impulse because it was so easy. An iphone upgrade and a battery thereafter.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by flybrand »

throw03172019 wrote: post #472
hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

I’ve walked in and bought an iPhone, AirPods (Pro/Max), Apple Watch, MBP without any issues. In and out. Bay Area apple stores.

Same in the Boston area.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by as_bntd »

Gigachad wrote: post #437
dev_tty01 wrote: post #406

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Hmm. Are you aware that mobile gaming revenue is larger than console and PC and that the majority of mobile gaming revenue comes from iOS (iPad and iPhone)? https://www.businessofapps.com/data/mobile-games-revenue/

It's gaming in the same way that a slot machine is "gaming" or how Android is Linux. True in some sense but still not at all in line with the general usage of the word.

Most of my gaming this year has been on my iPad. There are a lot of enjoyable “real” games… Just to give some examples: Total War, Six Ages, Slay the Spire, FM23, Kingdoms Two Crowns, Vampire Survivors, and I’ve played many more.

Not sure what is fake about them.

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