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Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by bookofjoe »

crooked-v wrote: post #170
drewg123 wrote: post #136

This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…

I think the factor you're missing is that even the Vision Pro is still only about hitting the bare minimum to be able to comfortably do what you're looking for in terms of specs (and maybe not even then in terms of weight). It's 'overkill' in terms of pricing, but only because we're still years if not decades away from the tech advances needed for true standalone AR glasses.

First Macintosh cost $7,400 in today's dollars when introduced after "Big Brother" Super Bowl ad in 1984

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Post by ghaff »

teruakohatu wrote: post #318
justinator wrote: post #241

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Is it really all that hard? https://sidetrak.com/products/swivel-pro-triple-13-3

That is a very clever solution. I have seen a person take out a standard moniter, laptop stand, keyboard and mouse from their carry on and set it up on an airport table.

It’s clever but I’ve never felt a burning need for more than a laptop screen while traveling and don’t even try to work on planes unless it’s just reading.

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Post by goosedragons »

scarface_74 wrote: post #224
goosedragons wrote: post #133

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They do sell more expensive iPads. Not exactly unreasonable to want to share a $1000+ nice iPad Pro among a few people rather than buy multiple bottom tier devices.

I’m not letting any kids borrow a $1000+ iPad Pro.

Who said kids?

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by Teever »

unreal37 wrote: post #301
BoppreH wrote: post #175

I'm very confused by Apple's strategy. As an owner of the original HTC Vive headset, its word-of-mouth power was off the charts. It was a blast at parties, and many of my friends bought their own $700+ devices after trying it. Here's what won them over: - Being able to try it themselves with little preparation ("put this on your head, tighten it here, and click these buttons on the controller"). You could even use it…

It's not a gaming device. It's two tiny iPads that you can put right up to your eyes and use hand movements to control.

Gaming is a pretty popular activity on the iPad.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by drewbeck »

dagmx wrote: post #48
mathgeek wrote: post #41

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> and they’ll not have to consider dedicated VR time The reported battery life on the Vision Pro is still going to require that you have dedicated "goggles on" time for the foreseeable future.

the battery has a usb-c port in photos that implies you can charge it while using it.

This has been mostly missed by reviewers and pundits. They’ve presented a primarily sitting/static experience; the battery is for when you need to walk around between sedentary moments. In that context 2 hrs is going to be (mostly) plenty

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Post by btown »

threeseed wrote: post #220
Jarmsy wrote: post #182

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All I've seen so far suggests they're almost entirely focused on virtual 2d screens floating in 3d space, and not other virtual 3d objects at all.

They had many WWDC sessions covering 3D objects especially with the Unity integration [1] and their Reality Composer Pro [2] tool. Both were covered during the keynote. And if you look on Youtube there are countless videos of third party developers developing 3D apps. It's just that they are positioning the device as a spatial computer i.e. something you use to get real work done. And right now for 99% of people that…

Something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYxPO-bfbOk (https://www.immersionanalytics.com/) would absolutely be possible with Apple's support for 3D objects. I hope that Apple doesn't neglect the analytics/visualization use case for launch; it could be gamechanging for their go-to-market strategy, as it would find its way into many corporate budgets.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by ghaff »

bookofjoe wrote: post #331
crooked-v wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the factor you're missing is that even the Vision Pro is still only about hitting the bare minimum to be able to comfortably do what you're looking for in terms of specs (and maybe not even then in terms of weight). It's 'overkill' in terms of pricing, but only because we're still years if not decades away from the tech advances needed for true standalone AR glasses.

First Macintosh cost $7,400 in today's dollars when introduced after "Big Brother" Super Bowl ad in 1984

Though most “real” computers were quite expensive by todays standards at the time. The editor in chief of PC Magazine coined Machrones Law—the computer you want always costs $5000 dollars and that I held pretty well for a long time.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by Groxx »

crazygringo wrote: post #316
hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

No, I have no idea what you're talking about: > it would take half an hour or so to get somebody over That's only the case for genius bar appointments or an extended consultation when they're super busy or something. If you just want to buy a phone you've already decided on, you ask the nearest person and they grab it and you pay for it. It sounds like there was maybe just a miscommunication in your case. There is no…

I've known multiple people, and attended with one, who walked in, picked up the watch, and left in a few minutes total. That's also how I bought a laptop once (the rest online).

Apple stores are often willing to spend enormous amounts of time with you if you ask for help, but I've never seen them stay in your way when you say "no" and that you're ready to pay and leave.

(Obviously it can happen, but they're some of the most-standardized tech stores out there. If it were A Thing™, it would be everywhere.)

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by stereolambda »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

It would be interesting if they tried to further emulate the famous behavior of luxury brands like Rolex, which may not deign to sell you anything if you just ask. Just recreate that aura for the mass consumer.

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Post by zimpenfish »

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

I normally order online for collection and have never had an issue there - most I've waited for collection is about 5 minutes during peak times when the store was absolutely rammed with people (Oxford Street, London, a Friday lunchtime.)

But I did once visit a store with someone wanting to buy a Watch and there was no forced sitting through any fitting or explanations. Just some questions about which Watch, if they already had a phone to connect it to, etc., and we were in and out of the store in under 20 minutes (Covent Garden, London, a Saturday afternoon, which is reasonably but not terrifyingly busy.)

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