I'm not surprised, given the overwhelming focus so far that they've had on minimizing the bad parts of VR (motion sickness in particular). Since they're not going to have real mass-market production numbers anyway, they've gone all in on making the experience as positive as possible for those limited number of people who get their hands on one, even if that means burning a bunch of retail employee time on fitting and adjustments.
Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
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Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#162This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…
I have the xreal airs. I’m very happy with them as an “on-the go” screen or “I don’t have my desk”, but I certainly prefer my desk setup (triple monitor). I think the price is right for what they do.
Do you use them on an M1 macbook with Nebula? I'm curious if Nebula supports running terminal windows, or is just a web browser or something..
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, they didn't
They absolutely did. Smartwatches were mostly seen as tacky before the Apple Watch. That’s part of why they chose a different form factor and partnered with luxury brands for bracelet. For Apple to make wearing them seems normal was not a given at all.
Absolutely did not. Only thing they needed to convince people of is accepting less than a days worth of battery life.
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#164Perhaps this is advantageous as there is less demand and supply capacity than their other products.
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#165This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…
Text editing is actually a harder problem than gaming. For gaming you can very well do with relatively low resolution and big bright objects to shoot at. But displaying clear text requires way higher resolution.
I tried Pico 4 headset, and gaming-wise it is fine, you almost forget you are not in your room anymore, but run a browser, and eyes start bleeding out from horrible font rendering. It is somewhat better on Quest 2, but still too bad.
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#166This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…
The alternatives have the whole unit in the headset in the front, which makes it very warm, sweaty and heavy for the neck - they're also nowhere near the required resolution for comfortably reading text in AR/VR, something that Apple seems to have solved.
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#167This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…
Try a few first, not everyone's eyes can manage long exposure to have a screen strapped to it. Kids under 11 are generally not allowed to use it for that reason
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
So what about this product opened your eyes that the previous 15 years of VR/AR did not? Just Apple's marketing power? Or is there something specific about this device that made it click for you?
I had always looked at things like Oculus as a "gaming" accessory. And I demoed Google Glass about 10 years ago, and it didn't present a virtual screen. When seeing the Apple goggles, it clicked for me that this was basically a mac environment, and I started thinking how amazing it would be to run terminals in it, then I started googling for any options that were available now..
Crazy. That's the power of marketing eh. Almost as soon as the DK1 was available, people were running desktop envs inside VR. 3D modelling, CAD, multiple floating desktops, watching movies videos in 3D or big fake theaters, panoramic photos... Google even had a 3D paintbrush program demo on their cardboard product half a decade or more ago. This is stuff all been explored before.
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#169This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…
I'm rooting for the simula one because of this.
Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro
#170This product has opened my eyes to "AR" glasses in general, but I think its way overkill for what I want to do.. My use case is being able to code with a giant screen anywhere (plane, hotel room, etc). I just want a few giant editor windows and terminals open. I don't care about gaming, AR gimmicks, etc. From what I understand, there are a number of sub $500 options. (xreal air, rokud air, TCL NXTWEAR, etc). However…
I think the factor you're missing is that even the Vision Pro is still only about hitting the bare minimum to be able to comfortably do what you're looking for in terms of specs (and maybe not even then in terms of weight). It's 'overkill' in terms of pricing, but only because we're still years if not decades away from the tech advances needed for true standalone AR glasses.