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Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by kakapo88 »

blownpipeline wrote: post #29

Anyone who believes cnn at this point I feel sorry for. They’ve discredited themselves numerous times. They and media more generally are known for selling fear and pushing certain narratives because fear sells. And operation mockingbird was never really concluded. Psy ops are now more ubiquitous than ever. And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live. And I don’t live in a big city. Big cities are hot a…

It's not "cnn". This has been widely reported by diverse scientific groups. Countless sources.

And it doesn't matter what the weather is like where you are. We're talking climate here - broad trends over broad areas, over time.

Truly, if some folks don't understand climate change at this point, and fall back to psyops and similar nonsense, there isn't much that can be done for them.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by digdugdirk »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #24
headsupernova wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain the cardboard part?

During my divorce, I and my two teenaged sons moved in with relatives and the three of us occupied a single bedroom for nearly a year. We slept there, we kept all our possessions there and we stored SOME of the food we ate in that room, separate from the kitchen pantry for the rest of the family. This was in Georgia, which is very hot and humid in the summer, and initially we had trouble sleeping because the room jus…

That's... fascinating. I'm immediately sceptical (I mean... insta-rotting cardboard causing a localized 5 degree temp increase? Really?) but I absolutely love that you and your kids found at least a small scientific outlet in what sounds like a rough time in everyone's lives. Practical real-world demonstrations of how you can use your brain to make your own life better are invaluable, especially in those teenage years when it seems like the entire world is trying to get them to conform into one thing or another.

You sound like a truly great parent and role model. Best of luck to you and your family.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by kakapo88 »

HydianSnake1 wrote: post #33
MrVandemar wrote: post #10

After talking about it for thirty, forty years and not doing much more than feeling good about sorting our recycling, we're here at the tipping point. We need to not be talking about "climate change" anymore. We are here at "climate collapse".

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Can you name some of those specific scientific doomsday predictions, that didn't come to pass? Not a prediction from some random internet dude, but an actual scientific IPCC prediction?

The climate models have, in fact, been accurate. Temperatures, sea ice, and so on, and marched up over the decades, as predicted. Buy worryingly, it appears those models were too conservative. Heat is now increasing faster than predicted. That's why this is news.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

#44

Post by DoreenMichele »

digdugdirk wrote: post #42
DoreenMichele wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During my divorce, I and my two teenaged sons moved in with relatives and the three of us occupied a single bedroom for nearly a year. We slept there, we kept all our possessions there and we stored SOME of the food we ate in that room, separate from the kitchen pantry for the rest of the family. This was in Georgia, which is very hot and humid in the summer, and initially we had trouble sleeping because the room jus…

That's... fascinating. I'm immediately sceptical (I mean... insta-rotting cardboard causing a localized 5 degree temp increase? Really?) but I absolutely love that you and your kids found at least a small scientific outlet in what sounds like a rough time in everyone's lives. Practical real-world demonstrations of how you can use your brain to make your own life better are invaluable, especially in those teenage year…

especially in those teenage years when it seems like the entire world is trying to get them to conform into one thing or another.

Someone with zero familiarity with me and my kids giving random and meaningless pats on the head for reasons I cannot fathom.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by blownpipeline »

kakapo88 wrote: post #41
blownpipeline wrote: post #29

Anyone who believes cnn at this point I feel sorry for. They’ve discredited themselves numerous times. They and media more generally are known for selling fear and pushing certain narratives because fear sells. And operation mockingbird was never really concluded. Psy ops are now more ubiquitous than ever. And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live. And I don’t live in a big city. Big cities are hot a…

It's not "cnn". This has been widely reported by diverse scientific groups. Countless sources. And it doesn't matter what the weather is like where you are. We're talking climate here - broad trends over broad areas, over time. Truly, if some folks don't understand climate change at this point, and fall back to psyops and similar nonsense, there isn't much that can be done for them.

Really? So you say “believe science”? And science is settled? I have been to a bunch of colloquiums on this subject and this science is far from settled. Anthropogenic greenhouse effect is actually a forth order effect, right there after a third order natural greenhouse effect.

And do I need to remind you which ones are the first and second order effects?

And psy ops are definitely effective, just look around yourself. Or at the mirror.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by cdumler »

blownpipeline wrote: post #29

Anyone who believes cnn at this point I feel sorry for. They’ve discredited themselves numerous times. They and media more generally are known for selling fear and pushing certain narratives because fear sells. And operation mockingbird was never really concluded. Psy ops are now more ubiquitous than ever. And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live. And I don’t live in a big city. Big cities are hot a…

If you have ever had to deal with an air conditioner isn't cooling because of low freon, you'd know that the problem is because the coils get.. too.. cold. They get so cold that water in the air freezes around the coils to be the point there is little air flow possible. Why?

When the freon is low, the freon expands too much into the coils. More expansion, more temperature drop in the coils. Additionally, the compressor has too little freon to compress to sent out to the radiator. The local coil's temperature has gone down, but the overall temperature of the system has gone up. This is the difference between weather (local) and climate (overall average). The weather of the coil is cooler, the climate of the A/C system is hotter.

Global warming is creating changes in the energy flow, both atmospheric and oceanic. Consequently, you may have locally cooler temperatures because hotter temperatures in other create blocks energy movement that would otherwise heat your area.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by digdugdirk »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #44
digdugdirk wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's... fascinating. I'm immediately sceptical (I mean... insta-rotting cardboard causing a localized 5 degree temp increase? Really?) but I absolutely love that you and your kids found at least a small scientific outlet in what sounds like a rough time in everyone's lives. Practical real-world demonstrations of how you can use your brain to make your own life better are invaluable, especially in those teenage year…

especially in those teenage years when it seems like the entire world is trying to get them to conform into one thing or another. Someone with zero familiarity with me and my kids giving random and meaningless pats on the head for reasons I cannot fathom.

No, you're right. This is the internet, and I should know better. Absolute cynicism and utter disregard for your fellow humanity is definitely the way to go. Thank you for teaching me the error of my ways - I'll try harder to be a worse person next time.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by DoreenMichele »

digdugdirk wrote: post #47
DoreenMichele wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

especially in those teenage years when it seems like the entire world is trying to get them to conform into one thing or another. Someone with zero familiarity with me and my kids giving random and meaningless pats on the head for reasons I cannot fathom.

No, you're right. This is the internet, and I should know better. Absolute cynicism and utter disregard for your fellow humanity is definitely the way to go. Thank you for teaching me the error of my ways - I'll try harder to be a worse person next time.

Silly me, I thought you were one of those well-meaning but misguided fools who imagined a girl needed vacuous pats on the head while not being taken seriously at all in order to encourage me to stay and add to gender diversity here, and never mind that I've been a member for 14 years and seem to probably have the most karma of any openly female member here.

My mistake. Carry on.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by blownpipeline »

kakapo88 wrote: post #43
HydianSnake1 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Can you name some of those specific scientific doomsday predictions, that didn't come to pass? Not a prediction from some random internet dude, but an actual scientific IPCC prediction? The climate models have, in fact, been accurate. Temperatures, sea ice, and so on, and marched up over the decades, as predicted. Buy worryingly, it appears those models were too conservative. Heat is now increasing faster than predic…

It’s not necessarily the reports themselves. It’s cnn and the media at large that take these reports, twist them and turn them into fear porn to fit the necessary mind control narrative. The reports are fine for the most part.

Re: Global heat in ‘uncharted territory’: 2023 could be the hottest year on record

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Post by digdugdirk »

blownpipeline wrote: post #38
ChatGTP wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it’s less hot now than the last few years where I live That's not how it works. CNN though, I agree, it's complete trash but climate change is not a "psy op".

Climate change is THE psy op. I know a thing or two about it. I myself was in the climate change camp/cult for a while. The hot weather this summer is driven primarily by the El Nino which is a natural cycle. So yes, we’ll have weird and in some places (especially densely populated cities) hot weather for about 2-5 years, but then I predict temperature will go down. Greenhouse effect is a third order effect, maybe a…

Phew, then global temperature should be going down aaaaany minute now: "Since 2000, El Niño events have been observed in 2002–03, 2004–05, 2006–07, 2009–10, 2014–16, 2018–19, and beginning in 2023."

(From Wikipedia)

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