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The world is changing, and children should change with it. Learn and understand technology, and the benefits of where modern machine learning is taking us. But you cannot unironically think we can substitute fundamental skills like essay writing and critical thinking for a degree in 'prompt engineering'?
> But you cannot unironically think we can substitute fundamental skills like essay writing and critical thinking for a degree in 'prompt engineering'? Personally, I don't think that. However, I also think it's logical and good for a child to consider the task at hand and select the most efficient tool available. I am not this girl's parent, and I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation if I was. However, I…
ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
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Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
The world is changing, and children should change with it. Learn and understand technology, and the benefits of where modern machine learning is taking us. But you cannot unironically think we can substitute fundamental skills like essay writing and critical thinking for a degree in 'prompt engineering'?
> But you cannot unironically think we can substitute fundamental skills like essay writing and critical thinking for a degree in 'prompt engineering'? Personally, I don't think that. However, I also think it's logical and good for a child to consider the task at hand and select the most efficient tool available. I am not this girl's parent, and I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation if I was. However, I…
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But you cannot unironically think we can substitute fundamental skills like essay writing and critical thinking for a degree in 'prompt engineering'? Personally, I don't think that. However, I also think it's logical and good for a child to consider the task at hand and select the most efficient tool available. I am not this girl's parent, and I'm not sure how I would have handled the situation if I was. However, I…
Parenting decisions are not isolated "best practice" moments, but the culmination of many conversations, events, interpersonal dynamics, and changes.
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Super interesting! Can you point me to some of the models and repos you used to do this?
For base tooling, things like: https://huggingface.co/ (finding models and downloading them) https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp (llama) https://github.com/cmp-nct/ggllm.cpp (falcon) For interactive work (art/chat/research/playing around), things like: https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui/blob/main... (llama) (Also - they just added a decent chat server built into llama.cpp the project) https://githu…
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I mean they are buying degrees for six figures. If it meant good grades without doing the work and it became socially acceptable it is ~150 million global tertiary students times 10 months of the year times whatever that is worth on a monthly basis. Maybe only $150B ARR right now at $100/mo (textbooks to read cost more than this, but you don’t need them anymore), so not $1T on students but still massive, and if you c…
And Coursera opened at a $6b market cap. So how do we value ChatGPT then? Should it be as valuable as Coursera, Udacity etc put together? Should it be that PLUS Harvard Deloitte and ServiceNow? Or since they have no major moat should it be Zero? It’s hype of this scale that can rationalize unprecedented figures. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/31/coursera-ipo-cour-begins...
Coursera is a discount retailer of tertiary education so I don’t see any relevant connection.
ChatGPT/OpenAI specifically is probably already overvalued unless they have some first-mover advantage that I can’t see.
Someone else has said it many times over but I agree that LLMs will disappear into the technology stack — a rising tide that lifts many market caps.
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>Googling a problem gives you all kinds of results, which you then need to dig through and understand in order to evaluate whether there's something that can be adapted to your use case. Exactly; search engines give you those blue links and short descriptions of the search results which are not enough for you to grasp what is the website about. I think what search engines need to do is tackle the complexity of going…
> I think what search engines need to do is tackle the complexity of going through the results of a search engine. This is exactly what I don't want a search engine to do for me. Going through the list of results and evaluating them is an important part of my process, if what I'm trying to do is learn something new.
[0] https://blogs.bing.com/search/2022-08/Shopping-Searches-are-...
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#287ChatGPT is too vanilla and is hiding a lot of "dark knowledge" - and I am not talking about obvious dangerous stuff, that should rightly so be censored, but rather being able to get insight how the rich operate, how they avoid paying taxes, how they build the financial structures, how they hide the money, what mechanisms they use to corrupt politicians or influence elections and how they get away with it and so on an…
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#288The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...
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Given that ChatGPT was just released last fall and it was expected to revolutionize practically everything, isn't it still telling that usage is falling? Where are the scientists, lawyers, doctors, office workers etc? You'd expect a slowing in the rate of growth, not shrinking. I don't know, if high school and undergrad students being off for the summer is enough to shrink your app maybe it's not all that? Edit: I un…
Honestly does it really matter much if their B2C usage is primarily students? I’m more curious about their B2B operations which is likely what will trickle into more people’s lives. Their APIs seem to enable quite a few interesting possibilities with a low up front technical investment. Too me the whole “generate me a bunch of text and display it as text” is a niche use case for a lot of people. Integrations for web…
For ChatGPT specifically, yes, because it keeps getting hyped so much, and I think B2C is going to be what ChatGPT ends up with. My company isn't known for its tech innovation and we're spinning up our own LLM based on our own data. It doesn't need to be super fast because I doubt we're going to go the chatbot route. It will likely be for content generation, so less horsepower is fine. No need to pay OpenAI for excess capacity.
They could go public now with an unreal valuation based on the hype of B2B usage that may never materialize. Revealing that you're mainly a cheat/study tool for students puts you in a box with Chegg and others, at a much lower valuation.
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#290As anecdote, I just cancelled my subscription to ChatGPT a few days ago. It was fun to experiment with, but it’s obvious that 90% of their development effort has been going into censoring their models instead of improving their utility. I saw no tangible improvements over months. For example, the web browsing extension was released completely broken and then… remained broken. Meanwhile Phind.com has been doing web br…
> but OpenAI does not want my money. For real, they could have done a demand based bidding system like AWS EC2 spot instances so serious light users could get in their tasks and big payers could launch their products and bulk processing users could have their jobs handled while most people are sleeping, but instead we got their weird waitlist that was probably more about giving M$ product ideas to steal.