While summer seasonality probably is a factor here, the larger issue is that the source of this claim (SimilarWeb) is not capturing users that switched from browser to the app when it was rolled out in mid-May. Some of my other sources suggest that traffic has been remained steady since mid-April.
ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
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Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not a student, stopped using ChatGPT because OpenAI is unreliable. Moved on to other models and providers
I went self hosted. It was about time to build a new desktop anyways (roughly 4 to 6 years before the old one goes to frolic at the server farm in the basement) and $2,000 will easily buy a machine that can run the quantized 65b models right now. So I spent slightly more than I normally do on this latest box and it's happily spitting out 10+ tokens a second. You're not going to beat GPT-4 yet, but you have direct con…
Sounds interesting. Would appreciate any tutorials or guides.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mentioned ChatGPT to my teenager a few months ago. Huge percentage of the teenagers at her school are using it to do their assignments. Later I her to read a few chapters of her book for summer reading. When I quizzed her it, she got it right. Found out later she used ChatGPT to give her a summary of the first chapters. She did not enjoy having first weeks of summer without a phone. School is having to change all ass…
That sounds incredibly backwards to me. How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?
"How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?"
Suggestions for how to change homework assignments? It seems like a difficult problem, so reverting to hand writing things with no phones is probably the best option for now...in my opinion.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#114The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...
Given that ChatGPT was just released last fall and it was expected to revolutionize practically everything, isn't it still telling that usage is falling? Where are the scientists, lawyers, doctors, office workers etc? You'd expect a slowing in the rate of growth, not shrinking.
I don't know, if high school and undergrad students being off for the summer is enough to shrink your app maybe it's not all that?
Edit: I understand there are new tools coming, but most of them aren't out yet. GPT4 was just released. For the most part, if you want to play with AI, ChatGPT is it. If they're really experiencing a decline in users that's not great for them.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Writing the SQL query is the easy part, collecting the data into the DB is the hard part. Can we get an LLM to collect the data into the DB? I was told LLMs are good at summarizing text like webpages into structured data.
The hard part is the SQL query, because you need to make sure the SQL query is safe to execute. Collecting data is far easier by comparison, but you absolutely could use an LLM for that too.
I’m not saying that the SQL query is at all easy, but since you have pretty much accomplished in on a short period of time, while Google, Yelp, etc. have still not completely solved the problem of store hours after decades of working on them, I’m going to lean towards that being the hard problem between the two.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
That sounds incredibly backwards to me. How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?
"How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?" Suggestions for how to change homework assignments? It seems like a difficult problem, so reverting to hand writing things with no phones is probably the best option for now...in my opinion.
Have students work with ChatGPT and let them spot / mark where the AI is hallucinating or wrong? Might translate well to general competence wrt working with any kind of source online.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#117The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...
Given that ChatGPT was just released last fall and it was expected to revolutionize practically everything, isn't it still telling that usage is falling? Where are the scientists, lawyers, doctors, office workers etc? You'd expect a slowing in the rate of growth, not shrinking. I don't know, if high school and undergrad students being off for the summer is enough to shrink your app maybe it's not all that? Edit: I un…
Was ChatGPT supposed to revolutionize everything or was it the harbinger of LLMs?
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#118I use ChatGPT mostly for translation. It is amazing what it can do from Chinese to English. Sentences actually make sense and consider context. What are the most popular usages for it? Homework?
I'm using it to write a browser based game engine.
The world doesn't need another game engine, and especially not by someone who has only technically written JavaScript professionally before, but there's some games that I wish existed on the browser, and one thing that world does need is for all the un-performant websites in the world to be embarrassed by the comparison.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#119The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...
Given that ChatGPT was just released last fall and it was expected to revolutionize practically everything, isn't it still telling that usage is falling? Where are the scientists, lawyers, doctors, office workers etc? You'd expect a slowing in the rate of growth, not shrinking. I don't know, if high school and undergrad students being off for the summer is enough to shrink your app maybe it's not all that? Edit: I un…
another factor in my mind could be users migrating to apps that are using gpt api instead of using the chatgpt ui itself.
only they can tell though.
Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
"How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?" Suggestions for how to change homework assignments? It seems like a difficult problem, so reverting to hand writing things with no phones is probably the best option for now...in my opinion.
Have students work with ChatGPT and let them spot / mark where the AI is hallucinating or wrong? Might translate well to general competence wrt working with any kind of source online.
So they Google it?