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ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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Re: ChatGPT loses users for first time, shaking faith in AI revolution

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Post by itissid »

no_butterscotch wrote: post #45

I was using ChatGPT this week for help with a back injury I suddenly sustained. Because I don't have insurance I was looking for options as to what I should do and what it'd cost and where to go etc. I did get a suggestion that I followed up on for an in person visit. But my big beef with it was that it kept adding disclaimers: "I am not a doctor", "My current knowledge is up to September 2021, insurance and hospital…

They could literally draw a direct line from all the tokens in those disclaimers/boiler plate to dollars in the forfeited energy use.

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Post by getmeinrn »

saulpw wrote: post #59
getmeinrn wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I can't even get ChatGPT (+ web plugin), when given a list of restaurants in NYC, to tell me which ones are still open vs have closed, and what their hours of operation / locations are. This is doable using a tool I've built. The key is to have that data in a RDBMS and to use an LLM to generate the SQL query that answers your question. Companies haven't offered this yet because there's no safe way to execute these q…

Writing the SQL query is the easy part, collecting the data into the DB is the hard part. Can we get an LLM to collect the data into the DB? I was told LLMs are good at summarizing text like webpages into structured data.

The hard part is the SQL query, because you need to make sure the SQL query is safe to execute. Collecting data is far easier by comparison, but you absolutely could use an LLM for that too.

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Post by ineedasername »

If helping with homework (or having it do it for you) are major use cases then this makes sense and isn’t a sign that perceptions/attention on LLM-based AI are declining, just that a significant portion of its traffic is seasonal.

Making GPT-4 more readily available will be a key indicator in the coming 3-6 months though, seeing what early projects and use cases people try with it. And also whether or not the speculated nerfing of the public GPT-4 backed ChatGPT extends to API use.

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Post by justapassenger »

The more safeguards, regulations, copyrights they add, the less useful ChatGPT becomes. It's a thing with many products. And I don't think it's bad that it's happening - safeguards exist for a reason.

And current generations of LLM is very prone to lying (I don't use term hallucination, as IMO it's an attempt to whitewash limits of AI).

ChatGPT did a great job at showing people current state of AI. But they did even greater job at overhyping itself.

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Post by everyone »

no_butterscotch wrote: post #45

I was using ChatGPT this week for help with a back injury I suddenly sustained. Because I don't have insurance I was looking for options as to what I should do and what it'd cost and where to go etc. I did get a suggestion that I followed up on for an in person visit. But my big beef with it was that it kept adding disclaimers: "I am not a doctor", "My current knowledge is up to September 2021, insurance and hospital…

I dont think you should use ChatGPT for anything serious, especially something health related. It's simply not designed for that purpose. Best case scenario is you are getting the combined wisdom of reddit, and worst case you are getting convincing sounding made-up nonsense.

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Post by pitaj »

crazygringo wrote: post #39

The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...

Makes sense to me

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Post by jrpt »

getmeinrn wrote: post #63
saulpw wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Writing the SQL query is the easy part, collecting the data into the DB is the hard part. Can we get an LLM to collect the data into the DB? I was told LLMs are good at summarizing text like webpages into structured data.

The hard part is the SQL query, because you need to make sure the SQL query is safe to execute. Collecting data is far easier by comparison, but you absolutely could use an LLM for that too.

Can you give an example of how you'd define safe operations?

I think a lot of use cases could just be 1) set up a database with only public data and 2) use a read-only user.

The much tricker use case is those where you want to allow inserts and updates but only on specific tables or rows.

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