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The culprit seems to be: > " Chollet thinks he knows what’s going on: summer vacation... a significant portion of students using ChatGPT to do their homework. It’s one of the most common uses for ChatGPT, according to Sam Gilbert, a data scientist and author. " https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-suddenly-isn-t-boomin...
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Given that ChatGPT was just released last fall and it was expected to revolutionize practically everything, isn't it still telling that usage is falling? Where are the scientists, lawyers, doctors, office workers etc? You'd expect a slowing in the rate of growth, not shrinking. I don't know, if high school and undergrad students being off for the summer is enough to shrink your app maybe it's not all that? Edit: I un…
I've always seen it as a toy, programed by humans, with human fallacies. It's a fun search engine for sure, but I think it's a decade (at least) until it becomes practical and useful.
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If someone plugs math into a calculator, are they really learning something when it spits out an answer? Of course! How to apply the calculator to problems, and how to discern if a problem is calculator-solveable. We've decided as a society it's better for students to use calculators as a tool in mathematics, why is chatGPT different in literature?
You can't type your homework into a calculator and get the answer out (at least not after basic arithmetic). You have to understand the problem and how to use the tool. If one's understanding of how to use the tool is limited to "access the tool and dump in the question, then blindly paste the response into my homework document", I'd say you are not learning much. It's obvious that every contemporary teenager can lea…
But we can? Students using ChatGPT to get homework answers is the whole thing we are talking about.
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That sounds incredibly backwards to me. How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?
"How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?" Suggestions for how to change homework assignments? It seems like a difficult problem, so reverting to hand writing things with no phones is probably the best option for now...in my opinion.
2. Consider making it non-graded (optionally providing feedback if desired that will not be counted in course grading.)
3. Require oral/in-person explanation of homework to paid peer assistants recruited from the previous cohort.
4. For writing, change to a writing workshop model where ChatGPT is a permitted tool that is incorporated into the workshop and students can learn how it can be helpful and how it can run astray. Help students to find and write in their own distinctive voice, even if they are assisted by ChatGPT.
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That sounds incredibly backwards to me. How about accepting new realities and changing homework assignments instead?
The world is changing, and children should change with it. Learn and understand technology, and the benefits of where modern machine learning is taking us. But you cannot unironically think we can substitute fundamental skills like essay writing and critical thinking for a degree in 'prompt engineering'?
Critical thinking is still a skill, but even there GPT-4 is great at giving suggestions and ideas when you're not sure what to do. I got into a long recurring argument with extended family members at an event last month. I pulled out my laptop and dropped in everyone's complaints into GPT and asked the best way to move forward. An argument that normally would have gone on for hours was over in 20 minutes, and we actually felt a sense of mutual understanding for once.
The world is changing very rapidly right now.
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Oh come on. I fed Unreal c++ engine code to ChatGPT4 and it couldn't understand inheritence in Slate classes and therefore kept offering me the same broken solution for a parameter with the wrong type. The Unreal engine code is documented and publicly avaiable for OpenAI to ingest and it still gets the basics wrong. I wasted hours trying to get it to explain to me what I didn't know, if it doesn't understand the inte…
>It doesn't parse, it doesn't explain, it does not grok. It guesses at best and the blood sucking robot-horse is not telling the truth. In my experience with coding (I've only done javascript and python myself) you have to tell it to explain and grok. It takes on the role you give it. Even just saying something like "you are a professional unreal developer specializing in C++, I am your apprentice writing code to (x)…
Knowing that, it makes sense that your prompt should be as specific as possible if you want the results to be as specific as possible.
The best results I got was feeding it Lisp code that I wanted translated to C (to compile it). It took very little effort on my part because I described what each of the snippets did separately, and the expectation when combined and used together.
Through this, I learned that C doesn't have anything akin to the Lisp's (ATOM). ChatGPT stated clearly that its version of ATOM should only be expected to work in the code it was writing, but might not work as expected if copied out for another use of Lisp's (ATOM).
I asked it to give examples of where it wouldn't work, and it gave me an example of a code snippet that used (ATOM) that would not have worked correctly with the snippet that did work correctly with my original purpose.
Having said that, I myself learned that working with code function by function with ChatGPT, and being explicit about what you need, gives very good results. Focusing on too many things at one time can derail the whole session. One or two intermingling functions works great though.
It was fun to experiment with, but it’s obvious that 90% of their development effort has been going into censoring their models instead of improving their utility. I saw no tangible improvements over months.
For example, the web browsing extension was released completely broken and then… remained broken. Meanwhile Phind.com has been doing web browsing very well and very fast.
The Wolfram extension was also useless, and in the same time period a Mathematica update was released with a far superior LLM notebook mode that is actually functional.
OpenAI also don’t allow access to their long context length capable models in the Chat web app.
I switched to the API subscription because it is billed based on consumption and I can use the 16K context GPT 3.5 models.
Meanwhile, despite announcements of “general availability” I still can’t access GPT 4 via an API and nobody has access to the 32K context version. That would be truly useful to me and worth paying for… but OpenAI does not want my money.
I guess I’ll just have to wait for Anthropic or Google to make a GPT 4 equivalent AI that I can access programmatically without have to prostrate myself in front of Sam Altman.
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Not a student, but getting constantly cloudflare-blocked and models seeming less capable every update has been giving me pause.
You need a static custom front end, there are tons around. You only have to enter your API key once and no more login-cloudflare-auto logout loop
ChatGPT is too vanilla and is hiding a lot of "dark knowledge" - and I am not talking about obvious dangerous stuff, that should rightly so be censored, but rather being able to get insight how the rich operate, how they avoid paying taxes, how they build the financial structures, how they hide the money, what mechanisms they use to corrupt politicians or influence elections and how they get away with it and so on an…
Why downvotes? Are you not curious how these things work, so that we can as citizens work to stop it? Security by obscurity?
I know a fair few wealthy people and they're not the animals that r/antiwork et al suggest they are.
As others suggested, this is likely a summer vacation dip, but speaking for myself as a non-student, my GPT (4 + 3.5) usage has plummeted. If you use it in a "what should be done" or "what is the right thing" sense, you get useless generalities. "It is important to remember that ... ". Suppose for example that you talk to it about combating judicial bias. It will largely insist that judges are unbiased because they'r…
> Suppose for example that you talk to it about combating judicial bias. Ok, here you go. https://chat.openai.com/share/b083b98d-6904-4c85-94fc-abdc76... A quick discussion of where things are "now", some proposals, a selection of three and then ethical concerns about implementing the proposals. I propose a method of increasing diversity and have it critique it.
YMMV but a high level summary like that isn’t necessarily what people want. You can probe the bot harder but why bother when I could just Google and read a little? It’s actually less effort for better information in some sense.