Red flags in the Threads privacy policy • Hacker News Board

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by impulser_ » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 9:42 AM UTC

mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

I would bet over 95% of companies don't comply with GDPR. I know some startups don't serve EU because of this. Facebook is under the microscope of the EU, they probably aren't risking getting fined until they can scale the product and implement the thing they need to lower the fine they would get and make being fined worth it. They are going to get fined most likely, but again 95% of the companies in the world could be fined as well if they were under the spotlight like Facebook is. GDPR compliance is NOT easy at all ask anyone who works in compliance they knows this.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by mewmew07 » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 9:47 AM UTC

stOneskull wrote: post #147

odiroot wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They trust me. Dumb fucks."

any of us could've written something like that when young

you think zuck changed his mind on this?

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by belorn » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 9:53 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #18

twobitshifter wrote: post #7

If your problem is with the ownership of Twitter, I don’t understand why you would run from the arms of one wannabe cage-fighter into another’s. If your problem is with ethics, FB isn’t a beacon of good behavior. If your problem is getting rate-limited or losing your blue checkmark, I guess go wild, but you probably already loved Twitter too much to leave.

No my problem with Twitter is that the quality of the discourse is poor and getting worse every day. Which is a direct result of Musk deciding to prioritise blue check comments over others. If you're having to pay to have people listen to you then that means you typically don't have something worth saying. And we see this manifest in many ways e.g. pages of laughing emojis in response to a tweet.

Facebook changed their algorithm several years ago (2014?) to prioritize paid content over organic comments. This resulted in many companies being force to change how they communicated, as people who followed them were not guaranteed to receive critical information if posted on Facebook.

I guess the biggest difference is that Facebook has had almost 10 years to adjust the algorithm towards paid content, and have users becoming accustomed to the system.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by jerezzprime » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:02 AM UTC

Zealotux wrote: post #144

I'm wondering something here, and I humbly ask for feedback: to anyone hyped about Threads, why? Has Meta ever displayed any particular quality regarding content moderation, freedom of speech, privacy, information control, transparency, or mental health? Not implying Twitter is any better, Musk Tweeted, "It is infinitely preferable to be attacked by strangers on Twitter, than to indulge in the false happiness of hide…

There is a third option: Don't participate.

Your quality of life will be better without any of it. Humans were not meant to communicate at that scale.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by michaelbrooks » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:03 AM UTC

shawabawa3 wrote: post #123

Moldoteck wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo it's about using instagram data for threads(following same people). Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there

> Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there Not threads.net I guess the app works? But why not the website too? (Or does the website also do nothing in the US?)

You can view profiles and posts, but you can't do anything more on the website. They are working to build a working website, but their focus is on the app.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by orra » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:05 AM UTC

_cenw wrote: post #63

yoaviram wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK is working on a separate data protection law and the attitude towards privacy is very different from the EU (hence the rewrite)

They're essentially the same, the ICO just doesn't enforce it.

Bingo.

And post Brexit they'll ignore all the CJEU case law about how blatantly companies have been building GDPR since the start.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by throwaway3618 » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

Moldoteck wrote: post #131

yoaviram wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK is working on a separate data protection law and the attitude towards privacy is very different from the EU (hence the rewrite)

"is working" - well, this means that at least now the gdpr in uk isn't much different from eu. In the future? maybe, but for now it's the same

They could be gambling on us not enforcing it (having shown signs that we think it's excessive). But others have said this is more about the Digital Markets Act.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by whstl » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

impulser_ wrote: post #151

mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

I would bet over 95% of companies don't comply with GDPR. I know some startups don't serve EU because of this. Facebook is under the microscope of the EU, they probably aren't risking getting fined until they can scale the product and implement the thing they need to lower the fine they would get and make being fined worth it. They are going to get fined most likely, but again 95% of the companies in the world could…

You don't even have to bet, you can just sample random websites and see how many make it more difficult to deny cookies than to accept. This is already a GDPR violation.

At some point it was definitely more than 95% of websites being shady with their cookie coercion banners.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by throwaway3618 » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:09 AM UTC

Moldoteck wrote: post #131

yoaviram wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK is working on a separate data protection law and the attitude towards privacy is very different from the EU (hence the rewrite)

"is working" - well, this means that at least now the gdpr in uk isn't much different from eu. In the future? maybe, but for now it's the same

They could be gambling on us not enforcing it (having shown signs that we think it's excessive). But others have said this is more about the Digital Markets Act.

*I get a GDPR-looking privacy popup on Threads in the UK so I'm inclined to agree

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by bool3max » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 10:11 AM UTC

jakear wrote: post #2

Man I hate these alarmist hit pieces. - "You cant delete Threads without deleting Instagram altogether": but you can deactivate it. What's the difference, and why do I care? Without including that info, you're useless. - "Threads collects sensitive personal information about you": How? Inferred from the things I post? Well I'll just not post those things. - "Threads collects data about your employment": Same. - "Thre…

There are so many more sophisticated, more accurate, and scarier ways to collect data about web activity, location and your body that you don't seem to be aware of.