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Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by easyThrowaway »

Nifty3929 wrote: post #94
hnhg wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you say specifically what goes too far? I don't find it onerous or unreasonable at all, but my business model doesn't improve by violating it either.

How do you know you aren’t violating it? Even with the best of intentions, these laws can be labyrinthian and ambiguous, and therefore expensive to (try to) observe. And there is still always the risk that you are found guilty of something. For a small or medium business, you are likely to be far enough out of the radar to avoid issues. But as a large company you may easily end up in legal crosshairs, costing million…

This is absolutely not my experience while working in an Ad agency in EU. There are companies like Iubenda which basically handle all the normative side of things, and if required by third parties they also do the compliance checks.

We've had no more than two disputes since the GDPR was passed and they both ended up with a simple "Please remove their data and make sure that X services are deactivated too when the user fills their consent form".

No scary lawyers or multimillionaire suits. I guess that part is reserved for those that consciously decide to ignore the rules.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by shawabawa3 »

Moldoteck wrote: post #52
mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

Imo it's about using instagram data for threads(following same people). Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there

> Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there

Not threads.net

I guess the app works? But why not the website too? (Or does the website also do nothing in the US?)

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by xinayder »

mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

100% agree with this and the other post, the biggest red flag is "Meta".

Whoever thought something good and user-first would come out of this wannabe Twitter killer is completely naive.

I expect that federation won't last and there's 2 things that can happen, either Meta decides it's not worth it, or they will find a way to draw out most of federated users and then deal a killing blow to the fediverse.

I was skeptical about being against Meta's Twitter being federated, but now I am totally in favor of it being banned by most instances.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by newaccount74 »

mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

A more charitable interpretation could be that they just haven't implemented a bunch of stuff that's required by the GDPR -- like being able to export data and deleting your account.

I'm pretty sure they'll launch in the EU eventually.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by murderfs »

hnlmorg wrote: post #109
Nifty3929 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know you aren’t violating it? Even with the best of intentions, these laws can be labyrinthian and ambiguous, and therefore expensive to (try to) observe. And there is still always the risk that you are found guilty of something. For a small or medium business, you are likely to be far enough out of the radar to avoid issues. But as a large company you may easily end up in legal crosshairs, costing million…

People keep saying this and yet it’s never happened despite the GDPR being in place for 5 years now. As a tech manager for an EU company, I can honestly say that it isn’t that hard to be GDPR compliant. Even when I worked for a company that did need to collect customer information, we pretty well understood what we could and couldn’t do under GDPR. This whole “GDPR is dangerous” meme needs to die because businesses a…

> As a tech manager for an EU company, I can honestly say that it isn’t that hard to be GDPR compliant.

> This whole “GDPR is dangerous” meme needs to die because businesses aren’t being dragged in court over trivial things because of it.

Ah, yes, the one weird trick of GDPR "compliance" by being a smaller, less appealing target to the enforcers.

The "GDPR is dangerous" meme needs to stay alive because it's massively ambiguous and different country's interpretations vary wildly. The types of companies the law is "protecting people from" are non-European ones. It's just economic protectionism in the guise of privacy.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by odiroot »

mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

"They trust me. Dumb fucks."

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by InCityDreams »

Nifty3929 wrote: post #94
hnhg wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you say specifically what goes too far? I don't find it onerous or unreasonable at all, but my business model doesn't improve by violating it either.

How do you know you aren’t violating it? Even with the best of intentions, these laws can be labyrinthian and ambiguous, and therefore expensive to (try to) observe. And there is still always the risk that you are found guilty of something. For a small or medium business, you are likely to be far enough out of the radar to avoid issues. But as a large company you may easily end up in legal crosshairs, costing million…

>Even with the best of intentions, these laws can be labyrinthian and ambiguous, and therefore expensive to (try to) observe.

Are you referring to gdpr? If so, that is such a clear set of documents (especially article 15) i would ask you to take a re-read.

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by Moldoteck »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #123
Moldoteck wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo it's about using instagram data for threads(following same people). Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there

> Gdpr is not the case since gdpr is also in uk and threads work there Not threads.net I guess the app works? But why not the website too? (Or does the website also do nothing in the US?)

that's strange, bc website works in Romania(EU) (to view other's tweets) so i guess it's maybe some error at MVP stage)

Re: Red flags in the Threads privacy policy

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

mellosouls wrote: post #44

Tbh if you are concerned about the privacy and ethics concerns here the biggest red flag is in the subtitle: Meta's Twitter rival launched in over 100 countries today—but not in the EU Anything more is simply detail - if a major launch of this sort of service omits the EU we immediately know exactly why.

Don't jump to conclusions.

They're likely not launching in EU because EU requires user data be stored in EU, and their current launch stack is hosted elsewhere, look at this datacenter map of Meta:

https://datacenters.atmeta.com/

They're mostly in the US, and most outside the EU. Given the record timeline from concept to launch for this app, it's normal they can't whip up a datacenter from nothing overnight.

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