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Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Re: Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Post by dredmorbius »

anigbrowl wrote: post #51
fernly wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: Tea as Hepatoprotective Agent: A Revisit

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Post by brookst »

mock-possum wrote: post #47
gumby wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> drinking hot tea, not by drinking tea per se. It is unclear to me that there is any way to drink tea than other than piping hot. I have heard horror stories that suggest people have attempted to drink cold tea but I figure such tales are merely intended to provoke disgust.

Cold tea infusion my boy - a nice strong ice tea on a hot summer day is one of life’s little pleasures. Splash of lemonade optional. Sugar very much optional.

Sugar is optional in tea the way screaming is optional in a library.

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Post by laserbeam »

This is a weird thing to comment about, but maybe it's feedback for someone and might be informative.

I love tea. I would love to read this article. But, the tall font is horrible, distracting and discouraging me to do so. This is probably the first time in my life that I closed a web page due to the font of the body text.

(I have saved it for later is some readable format provided by my browser)

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Post by medimikka »

It is worth pointing out, that this meta research, put forward by a team of "alternative medicine" proponents at Mangalore, is of relatively weak evidentiary strength and has not been replicated or strengthened since 2019.

Tea doesn't hurt, and there are some strong evidentiary ties of green tea extract in the easing of the effects of NAFLD, but generally it'd be dangerous to see it as a valid treatment option for viral Hepatitis or NAFLD effects.

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Post by pmontra »

ekm2 wrote: post #49

Black tea is consumed principally in Europe, North America, and North Africa. Totally left out East Africa,where Kenya is the world's 3rd largest producer of Tea,only a proportion of which gets exported.

Also in Central Asia. They told me there: green tea in summer, black tea in winter.

And also, we keep the good one for us, we sell the bad one to Europe, we grind the very bad one and sell it to Europe to make tea bags. Luckily I almost never use tea bags.

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Post by Tagbert »

darkclouds wrote: post #41
FollowingTheDao wrote: post #12

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Taking beta-alanine will increase Carnosine synthase activity and probably lead to a depletion of magnesium and/or manganese since they are the co-factors for the enzyme. So this effect will differ based on genetic and nutrition. https://www.uniprot.org/uniprotkb/A5YM72/entry

It will increase carnosine in the body, more if you exercise than are just sedentary, but beta alanine is concentrated in places like the olfactory bulb so will increase your sense of smell amongst other things, but its still not what I'm referring to. Side note: If the aim is to increase carnosine in the body, I'd do carnosine as its better absorbed than beta alanine according to some studies, and then there's the r…

What does that have to do with tea?

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Post by darkclouds »

anigbrowl wrote: post #53
darkclouds wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will increase carnosine in the body, more if you exercise than are just sedentary, but beta alanine is concentrated in places like the olfactory bulb so will increase your sense of smell amongst other things, but its still not what I'm referring to. Side note: If the aim is to increase carnosine in the body, I'd do carnosine as its better absorbed than beta alanine according to some studies, and then there's the r…

Well, what are you referring to? People's time is valuable, and figuring out some chemical puzzle for your amusement doesn't seem like a good use of it.

Beta Alanine and Bupropion will make you go off black tea, the beta alanine will make you throw up, the Bupropion will make you switch to green tea.

Ergo, is black tea really healthy for you, despite being the most drunk form of tea?

I think beta alanine could be used for addictive leaf based products, ie tea, cocaine and tobacco.

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Post by srcreigh »

paviva wrote: post #67

Beware that green tea supplements have been associated with very sever liver damage. Even though most survive, they often require prolonged intensive care, with attending complications, muscle wasting, etc. Good reference here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK547925/

Read this, seems A) rare and B) not clearly due to green tea extract.

The data is basically anecdotal and there isn’t a lot of cases. And none of the cases were due to using green tea, they were herbal mixtures with many ingredients.

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