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Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by scotty79 » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

redroyal wrote: post #11

crazygringo wrote: post #4

Nothing that players own is being taken away: > "...removes over 180 cars and motorcycles from in-game stores ." > "...making them nearly impossible to purchase and use if you don’t already happen to have them unlocked ." > "Yes, if you own one of these cars you can still drive it around and enjoy it ." > "...these vehicles will “occasionally be made available in other ways ” citing the prize wheel..." Is this really…

I don’t agree this is incredibly strange. These people are upset that they are unable to drive virtual sports cars in an online world. Why? It doesn’t transport them anywhere so they’re paying money for no real world utility. What difference does it make what pretend car they’re driving in a video game? Why would they even want a choice of hundreds of different pretend cars? Why would anyone take their hard earned mo…

> Why? It doesn’t transport them anywhere so they’re paying money for no real world utility.

As a person who doesn't like to travel and drive I see virtually no utility in getting transported from one place to another in real world either.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by hot_gril » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:17 PM UTC

donmcronald wrote: post #7

crazygringo wrote: post #4

Nothing that players own is being taken away: > "...removes over 180 cars and motorcycles from in-game stores ." > "...making them nearly impossible to purchase and use if you don’t already happen to have them unlocked ." > "Yes, if you own one of these cars you can still drive it around and enjoy it ." > "...these vehicles will “occasionally be made available in other ways ” citing the prize wheel..." Is this really…

> So is this really newsworthy? The options available for purchase have changed. Yes. They changed the game you paid for by removing content. What if your cable provider removed a bunch of channels you pay for, but haven’t watched yet, and turned them into PPV channels. Would you be upset? I would.

Guess they should quit playing then.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by scotty79 » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:17 PM UTC

redroyal wrote: post #20

hinata08 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would you drive cars in video games ? I have little interrest in real life cars. Real cars pollute much more, cost a lot, you have to take care of them, pay attention not to crash them, and you can kill innocent families with them I don't habe the budget for a Lambo and modding a street car is illegal. And even if I could, I wouldn't have the interrest to spend a decade to build a racing car that I could just cra…

You’re still missing the point entirely. The purpose of a car is to take you from a to b. If you don’t need that service, you don’t need a car at all, and if you don’t need a car it’s doubly true you don’t need a virtual car even if it is cheaper. It’s not real they’re selling a fantasy. You’re trading a real burger for a photo of a burger. You can’t eat that.

The real world utility is spending time in pleasant manner. Virtual cars provide that exactly the same way as virtual anything.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by hot_gril » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:18 PM UTC

h4x0rr wrote: post #12

redroyal wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t agree this is incredibly strange. These people are upset that they are unable to drive virtual sports cars in an online world. Why? It doesn’t transport them anywhere so they’re paying money for no real world utility. What difference does it make what pretend car they’re driving in a video game? Why would they even want a choice of hundreds of different pretend cars? Why would anyone take their hard earned mo…

Have you ever played video games once?

I've played plenty of video games, but these MMO ones have always seemed like more work than game. Especially if people are getting upset over it.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by hot_gril » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

PogoPuppy wrote: post #15

redroyal wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t agree this is incredibly strange. These people are upset that they are unable to drive virtual sports cars in an online world. Why? It doesn’t transport them anywhere so they’re paying money for no real world utility. What difference does it make what pretend car they’re driving in a video game? Why would they even want a choice of hundreds of different pretend cars? Why would anyone take their hard earned mo…

You are conveniently ignoring the part where a person gets happy over their character. Are you saying being happy has no real world utility?

It's a pretty short-lived happiness.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by motoxpro » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:26 PM UTC

donmcronald wrote: post #7

crazygringo wrote: post #4

Nothing that players own is being taken away: > "...removes over 180 cars and motorcycles from in-game stores ." > "...making them nearly impossible to purchase and use if you don’t already happen to have them unlocked ." > "Yes, if you own one of these cars you can still drive it around and enjoy it ." > "...these vehicles will “occasionally be made available in other ways ” citing the prize wheel..." Is this really…

> So is this really newsworthy? The options available for purchase have changed. Yes. They changed the game you paid for by removing content. What if your cable provider removed a bunch of channels you pay for, but haven’t watched yet, and turned them into PPV channels. Would you be upset? I would.

Just seems like forced outrage.

They’ve added tons and tons more content than they’ve removed. Net-net you have more content than you bought.

Like adding 10 channels and then taking away the hallmark channel.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by gretch » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:28 PM UTC

donmcronald wrote: post #7

crazygringo wrote: post #4

Nothing that players own is being taken away: > "...removes over 180 cars and motorcycles from in-game stores ." > "...making them nearly impossible to purchase and use if you don’t already happen to have them unlocked ." > "Yes, if you own one of these cars you can still drive it around and enjoy it ." > "...these vehicles will “occasionally be made available in other ways ” citing the prize wheel..." Is this really…

> So is this really newsworthy? The options available for purchase have changed. Yes. They changed the game you paid for by removing content. What if your cable provider removed a bunch of channels you pay for, but haven’t watched yet, and turned them into PPV channels. Would you be upset? I would.

It'd be a ridiculous expectation for society to keep.

I've been paying for Netflix - this month they probably took off 20~30 movies due to licenses ending.

You're gonna say, hold on, I haven't had a chance to watch all those yet.

Or if I paid for the costco membership for a year and then they take some product off the shelf and I say - hold on I haven't had the opportunity to purchase that yet.

Nothing in our society works this way

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by motoxpro » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:29 PM UTC

hot_gril wrote: post #25

PogoPuppy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are conveniently ignoring the part where a person gets happy over their character. Are you saying being happy has no real world utility?

It's a pretty short-lived happiness.

The game have been out for 10 years. If people are still passionate about it, that’s longer than most things people do in life.

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by motoxpro » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:31 PM UTC

redroyal wrote: post #16

PogoPuppy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are conveniently ignoring the part where a person gets happy over their character. Are you saying being happy has no real world utility?

“gets happy over their character”? You mean their virtual character becomes happy because of the virtual sports car they now drive? Tricking people to confuse their selves, possessions and lives with a simulation is some genius marketing. How did they pull this off?

The same way they “tricked” you to be happy about that book, movie, t-shirt, blog post, concert, hobby or any other form of entertainment you consume that “means nothing”

Re: GTA Online Fans Furious as 180+ Cars Are Removed, Some Now Paywalled

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Post by squeaky-clean » Thu, Jul 06, 2023, 5:33 PM UTC

redroyal wrote: post #20

hinata08 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would you drive cars in video games ? I have little interrest in real life cars. Real cars pollute much more, cost a lot, you have to take care of them, pay attention not to crash them, and you can kill innocent families with them I don't habe the budget for a Lambo and modding a street car is illegal. And even if I could, I wouldn't have the interrest to spend a decade to build a racing car that I could just cra…

You’re still missing the point entirely. The purpose of a car is to take you from a to b. If you don’t need that service, you don’t need a car at all, and if you don’t need a car it’s doubly true you don’t need a virtual car even if it is cheaper. It’s not real they’re selling a fantasy. You’re trading a real burger for a photo of a burger. You can’t eat that.

> The purpose of a car is to take you from a to b. If you don’t need that service, you don’t need a car at all

It would take like 2 hours to walk across the GTA V map on foot north to south.

> and if you don’t need a car it’s doubly true you don’t need a virtual car even if it is cheaper

Wait, are you saying if I don't need a car in reality, I don't need a car in a game? I'm not the Hero of Time, so I guess I don't need any weapons when playing Zelda. I'm not a soldier, so I don't need guns in Battlefield.