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Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by selcuka »

pyeri wrote: post #29
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens if you try to sign up for a new account? Similar level of malfunction, I assume. I am so sick of this reality. Endless dark patterns to get your money. Nearly impossible to get out. Why ever make a good product when you can just seek rent and fall into that perfect optimum of cheap-enough that cancelling is not worth the pain.

There have been stories of how convoluted and practically impossible the unsubscribe process from Amazon Prime is. At almost every step, the system sort of nags you with "Do you REALLY want to do this?" almost with a trolling attitude! If this is the case with proper big tech capitalist, think what will the scenario be with smaller pleb capitalists like Evernote in this grave recession.

I can understand them making it more difficult to accidentally cancel your membership, because that's how they make money. An "are you sure" or "please don't go" message doesn't annoy me.

Intentionally (?) breaking the site so that you can't cancel is another story.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by wkat4242 »

timetraveller26 wrote: post #4

And to think that at one point Evernote was THE note taking app. So much wasted potential.

Yeah and now we only really have OneNote, the web version of which still really sucks. You can't even search a whole notebook, just a section. And it needs to reload every day.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by chazeon »

SamBam wrote: post #38

I use Obsidian for note-taking, but Evernote for my "digital shoebox" of receipts, PDFs, photos of wine labels, insurance statements, etc. They are all quickly findable through a combination of OCR and tags. Does anyone have a good alternative for this use-case?

I think now Apple’s Notes app does this right now.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by Kadin »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #21
jfim wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, what's the rationale for using git? Is it to get a history of notes or just for sync? If it's the latter, I believe obsidian has a paid offering for that, or one can MacGyver it with syncthing.

You don't even need to macguyver really. There may be some potential conflict issues, but you could probably put the obsidian vault directory inside of dropbox, apple cloud, etc (I'm doing this with apple cloud, but I really only use one device) Maybe a little bit of Macguyvering to add backups is a good idea

> you could probably put the obsidian vault directory inside of dropbox

I've done this and it seems to work fine.

In theory I guess you could end up with sync conflicts if you are literally editing the same note on two devices at the same time, in which case Dropbox will create a "Conflicted Copy" which will pop up in Obsidian so you can resolve it manually.

But in practice, because Obsidian saves pretty much constantly, and Dropbox syncs pretty much constantly, in a typical connected office use case you don't run into this much. If you work offline a lot, you might need to think about a more structured workflow (i.e. using Git). But for me it wasn't worth the hassle to commit/push every time I wanted to switch devices. Dropbox (and presumably the many Dropbox-like folder-sync tools) worked fine when I was testing it out.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by wahnfrieden »

cweagans wrote: post #45
SamBam wrote: post #38

I use Obsidian for note-taking, but Evernote for my "digital shoebox" of receipts, PDFs, photos of wine labels, insurance statements, etc. They are all quickly findable through a combination of OCR and tags. Does anyone have a good alternative for this use-case?

Apple notes. The ocr is pretty good.

Apple stores these unencrypted with government access by default, FYI. Opt into e2ee to disable that.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by vzaliva »

lb4r wrote: post #47
vzaliva wrote: post #34

Personal journey: I used to be a heavy user of Evernote, but encountered a bug that the developers were not keen on fixing promptly. It was then that I realized the importance of personal notes surviving beyond companies, apps, and formats. Quickly after, I switched to a collection of plain text files using org-mode markdown and have been happy ever since.

I've been doing the same for the past few years, but have yet to figure out a good way to sync things between my devices. Not that it bothers me too much, but sometimes I'd like to have that convenience.

I use dropbox to sync.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by OriginalPenguin »

lb4r wrote: post #47
vzaliva wrote: post #34

Personal journey: I used to be a heavy user of Evernote, but encountered a bug that the developers were not keen on fixing promptly. It was then that I realized the importance of personal notes surviving beyond companies, apps, and formats. Quickly after, I switched to a collection of plain text files using org-mode markdown and have been happy ever since.

I've been doing the same for the past few years, but have yet to figure out a good way to sync things between my devices. Not that it bothers me too much, but sometimes I'd like to have that convenience.

Git? Syncthing?

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by Terretta »

scarface_74 wrote: post #40
CharlesW wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone who may not be aware, Apple Notes can import Evernote .enex files. The process was mostly painless, and I’m glad to be rid of the Evernote dependency. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205793

While I happily sing and prance in Apple’s “Walled Garden” and have done so for over a decade, I feel uneasy about putting all of my notes in Notes with no easy export option.

You can use Exporter from App Store to export to markdown notes.

https://itunes.apple.com/app/exporter/id1099120373?l=en%26mt...

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by browningstreet »

echelon wrote: post #10
yuppie_scum wrote: post #2

I just copy pasted all my notes into Obsidian, which doesn’t constantly nag me to subscribe

I really love Obsidian, I still have some major blockers. The git plugin is dangerously broken. I've had pushes from different computers overwrite one another. It doesn't show merge conflicts - it's happy to plow forward. I've reduced my usage since that happened. This is a huge problem. I need to have confidence the backups and merges aren't destroying notes. There's no easy way to open multiple workspaces simultane…

Vaults are workspaces and you can open multiple vaults simultaneously. You can also copy the .obsidian folder over so you don’t have to rebuild from scratch. But you do have to maintain manually.

Re: Tell HN: Nearly all of Evernote’s remaining staff has been laid off

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Post by wkat4242 »

revskill wrote: post #26

We do have Notion (and alternatives), who needs Evernote now ? Evernote should have an exporting tool to import into Notion instead.

Notion is markdown formatted text only right?

Big difference with a full wysiwyg notebook with attachments. Afaik notion only does images. Devs love markdown but regular users don't.

But it's been years since I tried notion so perhaps this has changed.

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