Earlier quoted context omitted.
While it has a bunch of FreeBSD code stuffed into it, it's not actually based on it.
Yeah I hear this statement a lot too but macos is based on nextstep much more than it was on FreeBSD. Of course nextstep borrowed some userland from FreeBSD and I think this is where the confusion originates. The actual kernel is totally different though.
FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
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Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#92I've been running FreeBSD since the 2.x days. I worked at an early ISP where we used it for DNS, mail, and NNTP. Eventually I started running it at home.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#93On page 27, Michael W. Lucas starts his entry in a rather weird way.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#94was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
Created by John Lasseter who also directed Toy Story. Do you want to question the beginnings of Toy Story, too? Do you also hate Jesus?!!!
(not in a snarky way, I want the story!)
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Created by John Lasseter who also directed Toy Story. Do you want to question the beginnings of Toy Story, too? Do you also hate Jesus?!!!
[citation needed] (not in a snarky way, I want the story!)
It's described a bit here.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#96> success Can somebody elaborate on FreeBSD's "success"?
macOS is based on FreeBSD.
Regarding OS-X/macOS:
The fundamental services and primitives of the OS X kernel
are based on Mach 3.0. Apple has modified and extended
Mach to better meet OS X functional and performance goals.
(source: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Da...)Some portions of the OS-X/macOS kernel are based on FreeBSD however:
The BSD portion of the OS X kernel is derived primarily from FreeBSD ...
(source: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Da...)As the above states:
The BSD component of the OS X kernel is complex.
It is correct to say some parts of OS-X/macOS are based on FreeBSD, but not to the point of making an unconditional assertion. As to user-land utilities, many are the same as found in a FreeBSD distribution.Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and routers/switches a lot, right? Juniper's boxes all used to run a FreeBSD derivative. But even they have introduced Linux based products.
This downgrade is quite sad. Too many of the enterprise grade network devices rely on linux. At least the FreeBSD Junos still runs on the devices on top of KVM. I just can't understand why they didn't go for jails/bhyve or illumos zones instead.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#98was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
Is anyone actually offended by a mascot based on a joke about "Unix daemon"? Do they just not get the joke or are they really that sensitive? I imagine it's the same sort of person that opposes table top games like Dungeons & Dragons and shares out Chick tracts (often highly offensive and rude, ostensibly Christian, cartoon tracts denouncing Catholics, Jews, and Muslims, in particular, as well as other groups; we had…
- Company admits to using FreeBSD.
- Christian groups who are shareholders complain at the execs
- FreeBSD is no longer used at the company.
CockroachDB has a similar naming problem, though that tends to be the execs themselves objecting.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and routers/switches a lot, right? Juniper's boxes all used to run a FreeBSD derivative. But even they have introduced Linux based products.
This downgrade is quite sad. Too many of the enterprise grade network devices rely on linux. At least the FreeBSD Junos still runs on the devices on top of KVM. I just can't understand why they didn't go for jails/bhyve or illumos zones instead.
This is in no way a downgrade. Juniper just read the writing on the wall. Arista boxes ran Linux from day one and have a much better reputation for stability than virtually any other vendor.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#100Not to be mean, but I started using Linux in 1992 (yes that early on, from the usenet posting), and I seem to recall hearing a lot more about FreeBSD or the *BSDs about 30 years ago than I do now. In my UNIX circles that I run around in, no one talks about FreeBSD. Honestly asking (yes, I guess I did not read the article) is most of its success on the commercial side? I think it is used in NAS boxes and routers/switc…
>In my UNIX circles that I run around in, no one talks about FreeBSD.
There's a reason why the "BSD is dying" copypasta https://everything2.com/title/BSD+is+dying> was born 25 years ago!