was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
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Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#32Not to be mean, but I started using Linux in 1992 (yes that early on, from the usenet posting), and I seem to recall hearing a lot more about FreeBSD or the *BSDs about 30 years ago than I do now. In my UNIX circles that I run around in, no one talks about FreeBSD. Honestly asking (yes, I guess I did not read the article) is most of its success on the commercial side? I think it is used in NAS boxes and routers/switc…
Its secret to 'survival' is more appropriate. This article has a lot of fluff. eg: Specifically, companies needing redundancy require more than one operating system, since any single operating system may fall victim to a failure that could take out the entire company’s infrastructure What sort of argument is this. We need multiple political parties. Therefore, our existence is important even if we secure insignifican…
Imagine an OS specific bug that could lead to failure. Now imagine you're using that single OS everywhere.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#33Love FreeBSD but ... Really wish there wasn't a split between FreeBSD & Matt Dillon 20-years ago, since DragonflyBSD is so strong and yet FreeBSD hasn't benefited from it's innovations. They'd truly would be better together than apart. Can only imagine how much stronger the BSD ecosystem would be overall today, if the past 20-years these teams had been together. https://www.dragonflybsd.org Announcement: https://list…
Complexity management is key in any project. Lots of successful forks reduce total complexity. NetBSD and OpenBSD are excellent examples — one could argue that their goals and innovations (in portability and security) would also be useful in the «mainline» FreeBSD, but that would explode complexity.
The FreeBSD community is carefully watching progress across many forks and cherry-picking / importing a lot of the cream.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#34direct pdf link to avoid this obscure reader tool https://cdn.coverstand.com/33057/794483/9a09afdf5fb325213a55...
Thanks. I don't know why these custom viewers are attempted. They're invariable terrible.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#35Love FreeBSD but ... Really wish there wasn't a split between FreeBSD & Matt Dillon 20-years ago, since DragonflyBSD is so strong and yet FreeBSD hasn't benefited from it's innovations. They'd truly would be better together than apart. Can only imagine how much stronger the BSD ecosystem would be overall today, if the past 20-years these teams had been together. https://www.dragonflybsd.org Announcement: https://list…
Complexity management is key in any project. Lots of successful forks reduce total complexity. NetBSD and OpenBSD are excellent examples — one could argue that their goals and innovations (in portability and security) would also be useful in the «mainline» FreeBSD, but that would explode complexity. The FreeBSD community is carefully watching progress across many forks and cherry-picking / importing a lot of the crea…
As an outsider, I've actually seen the most engagement between OpenBSD & DragonflyBSD.
E.g., there's active exploration of bringing the Hammer2 filesystem from DragonflyBSD to OpenBSD.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#36Has it been successful? NetBSD seems to be more popular.
Last time I used freeBSD was as a child circa 18 years ago.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#37I'm using FreeBSD on my servers non stop for 20 years. It has some quirks, but it's rock solid.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#38was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
Is anyone actually offended by a mascot based on a joke about "Unix daemon"? Do they just not get the joke or are they really that sensitive? I imagine it's the same sort of person that opposes table top games like Dungeons & Dragons and shares out Chick tracts (often highly offensive and rude, ostensibly Christian, cartoon tracts denouncing Catholics, Jews, and Muslims, in particular, as well as other groups; we had someone leaving them in our office for a while).
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#39Congratulations. I would really like to buy a new edition of "The Design and Evolution of FreeBSD", if it ever happens.
I assume s/Evolution/Implementation/, it is a good book.
I have the 2nd edition of the book from 2014 both in paper back and in digital format.
It’s a nice book. I bought it years ago.
I haven’t finished reading it yet, as it is a lot of pages and quite heaving reading.
But I like it a lot. And I will continue to read it.
Re: FreeBSD at 30: Its secrets to success
#40was it really constructive for this pioneering tech to choose the actual "devil" as a logo? then the move to shiny plastic look for the logo? long-standing public divisions with no end.. niche opinionated choices sure, but dont be surprised at the results.
Well, blame the daemon being a background process… but yes, marketing wasn’t a consideration back then.