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The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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Umm, didn't England (and later Scotland) exactly extract the wealth from the ground, in the form of coal, which enabled the industrial revolution.

Spanish coal on the other hand seems difficult to mine.

Cue Jared Diamond and all that "there's actually a reason for that" can of worms.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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I'm in a situation now where, instead of walking 10min / day back and forth to the office my boss is expecting me to commute on buses and trains 4hrs / day (not exaggerating).

I consider this extra commuting time as unpaid overtime (up to 20hrs a week, even though I'm not "working") and hence want to deal with it as this article says I should: "No way, I quit".

Yet I feel bad about this; what would you do?

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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I'm in a situation now where, instead of walking 10min / day back and forth to the office my boss is expecting me to commute on buses and trains 4hrs / day (not exaggerating). I consider this extra commuting time as unpaid overtime (up to 20hrs a week, even though I'm not "working") and hence want to deal with it as this article says I should: "No way, I quit". Yet I feel bad about this; what would you do?

Don't feel bad about it. Unless you just moved 2 hours away from your workplace it's not your fault.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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> In practice what this often means for the developer is unpaid overtime (also known as "crunch time"), something very familiar to game developers, and also common in traditional software development, as the project nears its deadline. But those unpaid hours are actually costing you, the developer, because you can't get them back. Sure you can. A good employer will give you time off in lieu later. Of course, an even…

In days of yore they had a mechanism so that if an employer ever let it come to that, there would be financial repercussions. I believe they called it "time and a half."

Point being, no amount of money can replace time spent off work with your family. What are you going to do, pay your spouse and children as an alternative to actually eating dinner with them? Only replacement time can make up for that sacrifice.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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I'm in a situation now where, instead of walking 10min / day back and forth to the office my boss is expecting me to commute on buses and trains 4hrs / day (not exaggerating). I consider this extra commuting time as unpaid overtime (up to 20hrs a week, even though I'm not "working") and hence want to deal with it as this article says I should: "No way, I quit". Yet I feel bad about this; what would you do?

A daily four hour commute is horrifically bad for your health (both mental and physical). You absolutely should not feel bad about quitting or demanding to be allowed to telecommute.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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I'm in a situation now where, instead of walking 10min / day back and forth to the office my boss is expecting me to commute on buses and trains 4hrs / day (not exaggerating). I consider this extra commuting time as unpaid overtime (up to 20hrs a week, even though I'm not "working") and hence want to deal with it as this article says I should: "No way, I quit". Yet I feel bad about this; what would you do?

Assuming you worked ~40 hours/week before, this extra 20 hours means that your hourly wage is roughly 33% lower. What would you do if asked to take a 33% cut in pay?

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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They nap in the afternoon, they publish uncensored news .. is there anything those Spaniards are good for?

And you forgot about food and weather ;)

Not to mention the friendly late-evening dinner in the summer. Suddenly missing Northern Spain and Southern France :(

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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What's wrong with forming a union?

[Warning: This question may seem like a troll... I'm just trying to provoke a little more thinking about the pros and cons of unions as they apply to programming.] Would a union allow it's members to contribute to open source projects? Especially those used in commercial products?

I can't see many programmers joining a union that didn't allow members to contribute to open source. Remember, a union isn't some independent entity that rises up and dictates terms, it's simply a collection of its members. The organization can become corrupted if you're not careful, but there's certainly no reason to assume it would be here.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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I'm in a situation now where, instead of walking 10min / day back and forth to the office my boss is expecting me to commute on buses and trains 4hrs / day (not exaggerating). I consider this extra commuting time as unpaid overtime (up to 20hrs a week, even though I'm not "working") and hence want to deal with it as this article says I should: "No way, I quit". Yet I feel bad about this; what would you do?

Why would you feel bad? This is a serious quality of life issue. 4 hours a day commuting is not acceptable for most people. Move, find an arrangement that lets you stay home, or quit. It's not your fault that your boss is making you do this.

Re: The "Spanish Theory" of software project management

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This meme about how unfair it is that programmers work unpaid overtime is starting to drive me nuts. I've been in big stodgy software company where everyone worked exactly 8 hours, and the whole company filed out the door at 5pm as if a factory whistle had blown. I've also worked at a smallish software company where the norm was at least 10 or 11 hours a day, and half the programmers came in on Saturdays and Sundays…

It appears that your comment has been taken the wrong way... I think what you're saying is this: * It's more fun (for you) to work with people who like to program and ship software than it is to work with people who just program to pay their bills and would rather be anywhere else than at work. When employees care about solving problems, they put in extra hours sometimes. Managers have the problem of making sure that…

Yeah, I've seen both ends of that. I really understand wanting to work with people who care a lot about what they're doing and who want to get things done right.

At the same time, I've also seen short-sighted management where they're just trying to wring you dry and pulling really stupid stunts that really hurt the people who do care. And when they do those, I find myself starting to care less, because some of the stupid little things they do when trying to save a few pennies can just totally sap your ability to care. Just got a fresh reminder of that, sadly. Cancelled a cheap parts order just because we managed to get the flaky part to work for a short time, but it still breaks down half the time as they'd know if they hadn't left early.

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