Germany Achieves Record 57.7% Renewable Energy Share for First Half of 2023

Post by harrid » Wed, Jul 05, 2023, 3:01 PM UTC

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> the AfD, which is a far-right party most would never consider to vote for. The AFD is currently the second most popular political party in Germany and the strongest in many parts. It's also better described as center-left.

No, the AfD is a right extremist party, one of their leading figures, Björn Höcke can now legally be called a Nazi.

Post by llampx » Wed, Jul 05, 2023, 3:04 PM UTC

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What's wrong in building nuclear power plants? And before teaching lessons to Eastern European countries, remember that the West had 50 years after the WWII to build up the economy and infrastructure. It would be only fair to let Eastern European countries to develop for the same period, without demanding them pay the costs of higher energy prices.

What's wrong in terms of emissions is that they take forever to plan and build. During which time, Poland will continue to produce its electricity almost exclusively from coal. These are real emissions that can't be made up for once the nuclear plants are finished. The alternative is to replace a lot of the coal really fast with renewables. Further more, it's cheaper so you can replace a lot more than with nuclear.

Post by adrianN » Wed, Jul 05, 2023, 3:06 PM UTC

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Heating is one thing we have tackle, but also transportation which uses up 27.1% of energy in German. Individual transportation should be a main target, we would all shift from cars to public transport or bicycles. About 40% of distances driven with cars are shorter than 5 kilometers, a distance that's perfect for a bicycle. On top of that, car owners tend to underestimate the cost of their cars[1] [0] https://www.um…

I would like to see you cycling 5 km in the Alps against the wind in the rain. Cycling is fine. I do it 7 km to the work. But only because it is flat. And only when the weather is fine.

Post by adrianN » Wed, Jul 05, 2023, 3:08 PM UTC

ulfw wrote: post #202

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Heating is one thing we have tackle, but also transportation which uses up 27.1% of energy in German. Individual transportation should be a main target, we would all shift from cars to public transport or bicycles. About 40% of distances driven with cars are shorter than 5 kilometers, a distance that's perfect for a bicycle. On top of that, car owners tend to underestimate the cost of their cars[1] [0] https://www.um…

This is why so many are fed up with Germany and especially Germany's current government. You know, maybe people don't want to bike in a country where it's too hot in the summer, too icey/cold/snowy in the winter and where it rains constantly in the other two seasons? This whole attitude of "I tell you how to live your life because reasons" is preposterous.

Post by adrianN » Wed, Jul 05, 2023, 3:13 PM UTC

eldaisfish wrote: post #201

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> It's hard for renewables to replace coal or nuclear though, because coal and nuclear provide baseload power, whereas wind and solar are very intermittent and require basically 100% gas backup (as there will be circumstances with very low wind and solar, which tends to happen in europe on very cold, still, winter nights when demand is the highest). I absolutely agree with you that we need the coal plants and imports…

How is energy storage a solved problem? All the battery storage in the world today would power half of Germany's minimum electrical load for minutes.