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Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by SuchAnonMuchWow »

grimgoldgo wrote: post #20
josephcsible wrote: post #6

If you publicly make personal attacks against employees of your employer's biggest customer, isn't firing you a completely reasonable thing for your employer to do?

Is saying "the blood never washes off" the hands of this DoD employee really a personal attack? I mean, it certainly seems like a consistent and reasonably widely held belief that military industrial complex jobs cost lives. There's of course the opposite opinion too. I'm not interested in trying to demonstrate that one opinion is right or wrong, just that like, is this really an attack ?

Considering the previous tweet said "fuck you", yes it is an attack.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by wiseowise »

nik736 wrote: post #21
constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

It's also super unnecessary to tweet like that. No one wins.

The company won. Good riddance.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by clnq »

morelisp wrote: post #19
parineum wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Like, yeah, the guy was being thin-skinned and over reactive but publicly accusing your employer's client of war crimes should get you fired. If you're upset that your employer is dealing with these people, quit. Work for someone you don't hate.

> publicly accusing your employer's client of war crimes What other factual statements should you not be allowed to make about your employer's clients?

It’s very clear that in the interest of business, those statements should not be made by an employee.

They are free to make these claims in a way that doesn’t damage the business. Like a second personal Twitter account.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by parineum »

morelisp wrote: post #19
parineum wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Like, yeah, the guy was being thin-skinned and over reactive but publicly accusing your employer's client of war crimes should get you fired. If you're upset that your employer is dealing with these people, quit. Work for someone you don't hate.

> publicly accusing your employer's client of war crimes What other factual statements should you not be allowed to make about your employer's clients?

If you read the rest of my comment, I don't actually have a problem with accusing people of war crimes. I think it's assinine to think one could do so and hope to continue to be paid by those people though. I would think that someone so ready to stand on this moral high ground wouldn't want that money but I guess when it actually comes to backing up her morals, she'll take the money instead.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by morelisp »

wiseowise wrote: post #29
js98 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Being technically right isnt the only thing which matters in an employer/employee context. They (the employee) represent the company

They’re not even technically right. Leave your edgy fursona (is that how they call it?) to your personal life.

> VMware is committed to harnessing the power of human difference by enabling a workplace where we can all be proud to be our authentic selves.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by grimgoldgo »

cmdli wrote: post #24

> "Being as I’m not an idiot, I elect to bring a witness of my own (@lizthegrey ). She slightly livetweeted that conversation until VP VMware tells her to stop. " This, I think, is the point that caused the firing. It's pretty clear that if you choose a witness who then posts everything publicly that you are not discussing in good faith. Like, it's your right to speak your mind, and maybe you think you are in the mor…

You are allowed to discuss workplace conditions. That's like, protected concerted activity 101.

If the business was uncomfortable with their treatment of their employees being public, maybe that activity wasn't ethical.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by oefrha »

WheatMillington wrote: post #8
constantly wrote: post #4

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

Totally agree. The author seems so incredibly obnoxious and insufferable, I don't understand how anyone could work with them. This should have been a lesson on the toxic and pointless nature of social media, but the author seems to have misread the situation entirely.

All the fist bumps and cheers in these social media echo chambers won’t help them reflect. Unlike the OP who casually tagged some tech guy on Twitter and said “I’d shake your hand but the blood never washes off” (what the actual fuck), reasonable people won’t engage them on social media and tell them how incredibly toxic they are.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by parineum »

grimgoldgo wrote: post #27
parineum wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Like, yeah, the guy was being thin-skinned and over reactive but publicly accusing your employer's client of war crimes should get you fired. If you're upset that your employer is dealing with these people, quit. Work for someone you don't hate.

My bad, misunderstood

I was referring to the person she was talking to.
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