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Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

It's also super unnecessary to tweet like that. No one wins.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#22
post #9

Whether you agree or disagree with how VNWare followed up the tweet, he was very prudent in handling. Lawyer up, witnesses everywhere.

*She, I believe, but absolutely. I'd have never thought to bring a witness to that sort of meeting. Keeping that one in my back pocket just in case.

The flag was likely HR. HR is the sort of thing you never interact with unless something's up.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#23
So their employer pays for them to go to a conference and they don't see anything wrong with embarrassing their employer with inflammatory tweets against an arm of the government?

How would they react if it was the megacorp playing stupid by ignoring all common-sense and respect, and pointing at minutia in written guidelines to justify sociopathic actions?

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#24
> "Being as I’m not an idiot, I elect to bring a witness of my own (@lizthegrey ). She slightly livetweeted that conversation until VP VMware tells her to stop. "

This, I think, is the point that caused the firing. It's pretty clear that if you choose a witness who then posts everything publicly that you are not discussing in good faith. Like, it's your right to speak your mind, and maybe you think you are in the moral right, but if you intentionally antagonize the people you work with you won't be working with them for much longer.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#26

Nice read, thanks for sharing. It's interesting (to say the least) that they more or less used a "no talking about politics" clause to fire this woman, even though the other guy's statements about DoD weapons systems are certainly just as political. But he's an Air Force guy, she's a dissident, he's establishment, she's counterculture, so he got to push her out of a job for meeting him on his playing field, so to spe…

Anything that isn't explicitly supporting the status quo = "politics".

This is also true of a large portion of HN commenters.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#27

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Like, yeah, the guy was being thin-skinned and over reactive but publicly accusing your employer's client of war crimes should get you fired. If you're upset that your employer is dealing with these people, quit. Work for someone you don't hate.

My bad, misunderstood

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#28

Nice read, thanks for sharing. It's interesting (to say the least) that they more or less used a "no talking about politics" clause to fire this woman, even though the other guy's statements about DoD weapons systems are certainly just as political. But he's an Air Force guy, she's a dissident, he's establishment, she's counterculture, so he got to push her out of a job for meeting him on his playing field, so to spe…

The key element is the poster was essentially _representing_ their employer at a tech conference.

This would be no different than wearing the uniform of a supermarket and going on a political rant with a megaphone.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

#29
post #12

I would have fired this person as soon as humanly possible for basically (actually) telling customers of the company to go F themselves, and making horribly insensitive and inappropriate jokes at their expense. imho the point of this article seems to be to tell the story where big bad VMWare or the target of VMWare’s employee’s ire stomped on poor VMWare employee, but I think it makes the employee look bad. I would a…

Agreed. Being technically right isnt the only thing which matters in an employer/employee context. They (the employee) represent the company

They’re not even technically right.

Leave your edgy fursona (is that how they call it?) to your personal life.

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