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Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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Post by SahAssar »

gmsiperx wrote: post #213

That's why we built Usermaven.com, a privacy-friendly website and product analytics tool. Our website analytics module is simple and gets the job done in one single easy-to-use dashboard. However, if you want to dig deep, you can use funnels, journeys and other features to get more insights out of our analytics. Usermaven collects all client-side events automatically so it makes it really easy for marketing teams to…

Do you have any info page for how you implement stuff like funnels, journeys, etc. without storing any PII?

Also this paragraph from your GDPR page had me scratching my head a bit:

> Usermaven agrees to abide by the standard contractual clauses where data is transferred from the EU to the US.

Is that written before Schrems II?

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Post by onionisafruit »

velut wrote: post #267
onionisafruit wrote: post #258

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Do you know a static host that makes logs available? I happen to be looking to do something like this right now, but I would rather not run my own web server for my simple static blog.

I recently deployed a static website on Bunny.net using their object storage and their CDN and they make available logs in this format https://docs.bunny.net/docs/cdn-log-format .

Thanks. I hadn't heard of bunny.net before. I'm going to give this a shot.

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Post by SahAssar »

happymellon wrote: post #32
Hamuko wrote: post #16

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Or if you're after free analytics, Cloudflare has something. Should be GDPR compliant since they don't use cookies or local storage.

GDPR has nothing to do with cookies or local storage. They are just mediums that are potentially impacted by GDPR. GDPR simply makes collecting personal data without consent illegal. This is why a lot of American centric sites block us from accessing them, they want your data, and they don't want to ask for it.

> This is why a lot of American centric sites block us from accessing them, they want your data, and they don't want to ask for it.

Also, requiring it when it is not technically required for the product is illegal. So even throwing up a splash screen for EU visitors with a single "allow all" button would be illegal.

The GDPR is actually a quite well designed law for what it tries to do, its just that enforcement lags behind.

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Post by tesdinger »

dijit wrote: post #34

My sister-in-law (girlfriends brothers girlfriend, not that it matters) recently studied for a data analytics certification. Actually several. The entire course (located on here: https://medieinstitutet.se ) is based on Google Analytics. Now her entire value is tied to the use of Google Analytics, she will almost certainly fight very hard to ensure that these skills remain relevant, nobody would want to retrain for 6…

> Personally I find this astonishingly foolish of the people who train exclusively on these tools instead of first principles and primitives.

That's an elitist perspective that doesn't include the average worker making a living by knowing their tools and not much else.

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Post by jameshart »

3np wrote: post #254
worksonmine wrote: post #235

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But there are infinite numbers of salts. Please explain how this could be brute-forced as long as the salt is used correctly? What am I missing?

Could you be more precise with what envision by "correctly"? If you use a shared salt for all or a significant portion of rows, then it's a realistic matter of bruteforcing to cover your entire table, given that the attacker has been able to recover the salt. Even without any cracking at all, shared salt would mean that rows can be correlated if the attacker can identify a single row and correlate that to the target.…

If it's shared, it's not a salt.

The term of art in that case is 'pepper'.

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Post by scarface_74 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #282
scarface_74 wrote: post #252

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> I’m curious what you’re working with that is significantly different from one CSP to the next. I work here: https://aws.amazon.com/professional-services/ There is a lot more to any of the cloud providers than just VMs and networking. I haven’t done anything hardly with a raw EC2 instance in 5 years except for one or two deployment pipelines. AWS alone has 130 services. True many of them are hosted versions of open…

> I work with call centers (Connect), Athena (Apache Presto), Step functions, and I have done some IOT work and of course Lambda and a lot more. Well, Lambda has a multitude of competitors (although to my knowledge they are only competing on the principle of serverless computing, so you'll still have to re-write scripts using these), and same for IoT integration. The rest I'd say is pretty exotic stuff... and thanks…

It was originally the call center software that Amazon Retail used. It was ported to become an AWS service. For text to speech it uses Lex - the AWS version of Alexa. For other integrations you have it call a Lambda.

It’s the standard type of software you use when calling into a call center with a mixture of automated help and operators.

Like I said above, if you know your specialty well, it’s not hard to map your expertise to AWS services. It took me two years from never opening the AWS console but having literally decades of software development/architecture experience to working at AWS in consulting. I worked at a 60 person startup before.

I’m more challenging the notion that all any of the cloud providers offer is a bunch of VMs and the surrounding networking infrastructure.

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Post by qingcharles »

EGreg wrote: post #218
arcanemachiner wrote: post #186

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I get where they're coming from. It kinda reminds me of an old-school iOS app (pre-iOS 7, before everything went all flat design). The skeumorphism, the arrows in the menu, the big black borders on the menu. The layout, styling and font kind of reminds me of the jQuery era (but of course, I was primed to look for this stuff by the GP comment). None of what I'm saying is criticism BTW. Just observation.

Does it make it bad or offputting?

It's just rough around the edges. Nothing that isn't fixable. Nothing that stops you using the site. It just looks a little bit dated - things like the gradients on the menus, a trail behind the mouse pointer.

It would definitely be more appealing to the masses if it was brought more in line with a more minimalist 2023 aesthetic, IMO.

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Post by cm2012 »

Just another thing that's going to leave the EU in the stone age, falling further and further behind the USA economically.

15 years ago, US and EU GDP per capita were about the same. Now the USA is 50% higher. Even West Virginia is richer per person than France.

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

ozim wrote: post #255
TheCapn wrote: post #244

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Perhaps you're using a broad/generic example to try and make the point but I'll say this: If a seasoned mechanic is unable to figure out how to reset the Maintenance Reminder or look up how to sync Tire Pressure sensors, run away. In the same way that one can use knowledge of one programming language as a means to leapfrog into other languages, other skilled trades are similar. Perhaps there's something that could be…

Try to get a French car in Poland, most shops are used to deal with VW, Audi. It is not impossible but if you try to go to a random shop you found on Google and fix your Citroen or Renault you might be surprised.

That's often certain German cars in the US. IE some shops will just not work on modern Minis. Plenty of shops will avoid weird, niche cars.

Any mechanic can fix a Citroen, but is it worth the floor time it'd take to get the parts and figure out french quirks vs working on something they know that they'd make the same money in a third the time.

Having done shade tree work on various cars, I'd totally turn down any Subaru engine bay work if I was already close to swamped.

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