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Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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post #26

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> Their argument is that a EU-citizen that goes to Asia and visits a site there, will have his information sent to US servers and not EU servers. Agreed, this is absolutely ridiculous. And I say this as an EU resident! I’d rather NOT have websites start checking residency/citizenship to decide my data ownership.

They already do.

I’ve literally never had to provide such proof, and I would say I use the internet quite a bit. Any example websites?

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

#182
post #51

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I don't want my data in the hands of the NSA as much as you don't want yours in the hands of the BND, FSB, or the People's Liberation Army.

Fair enough, but this were actually the reason, simply adding a statement such as “if a non-EU member state wants to request data about an EU national and said data cannot be released to the law enforcement of the non-EU member without a MLAT being served to the EU national’s government” would have been enough. However, I don’t see that, and many Europeans do give “dominance of Americans” as the reason, so I simply g…

Fair enough, but if this were actually sufficient then the US wouldn't have a law saying they can require US based companies to give them the data without regards to the laws of their countries the data is actually being taken from.

However I don't see that, and thus Europeans familiar with the relevant cases give “dominance of Americans” as the reason.

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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Or even if you don't want to use your web server's logs for this purpose for whatever reason, this is quite trivial to implement in JS yourself. No need for GA and other bloated analytics frameworks.

If you could trivially implement Matomo (a project that has been developing over 16 years) in JS, please open source it. Would love to get rid of the PHP in our stack.

If you're using the docker container it really shouldn't matter.

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

#184
Not saying it is morally correct to use Google Analytics. But I still find it amusing the Nordic countries see it is OK for everyone to know everyone's else salary while it is not OK for Google to know your IP.

https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/income-tax-transparency-no...

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

#185
post #163

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> will be economically useless if it is banned. Economically set back, maybe. "Useless" (with its implication of permanence) is way OTT.

How many can afford to spend 6 months re-training, and even worse: how many companies are willing to hire people who have no experience in their specific tool. I don't think it's permanent, but it does make them economically useless until such a time as they retrain.

You are stretching credibility when you talk about 6 months to retrain from GA to some other analytics tool. 1-2 weeks is much more realistic timeline considering standard industry terms and similarity between tools.

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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post #175

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Holy 2008 what a website! I won't comment on any specific design choices here, but accessibility-wise: the text on the team page seems fuzzy? Looks like it's a text-shadow.

What is 2008 about this website? I don't know any websites from 2008 that look like that. What do current websites have which websites from 2008 don't? When I visit YouTube, Facebook or Twitter, they seem extremely "busy", overrun with ads, and rather ugly, but we are used to them. I am not sure it's so bad to have a clean layout. But I am open to constructive criticism.

I get where they're coming from. It kinda reminds me of an old-school iOS app (pre-iOS 7, before everything went all flat design). The skeumorphism, the arrows in the menu, the big black borders on the menu. The layout, styling and font kind of reminds me of the jQuery era (but of course, I was primed to look for this stuff by the GP comment).

None of what I'm saying is criticism BTW. Just observation.

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

#187

Not saying it is morally correct to use Google Analytics. But I still find it amusing the Nordic countries see it is OK for everyone to know everyone's else salary while it is not OK for Google to know your IP. https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/income-tax-transparency-no...

I wouldn’t call this amusing at all. That’s consistent with a commitment to protection of the common citizen. Salary transparency benefits the worker.

If I know my colleague doing the same work makes more money than me, that gives me leverage to request and receive a raise. If I know the CEO of my company makes 1000x my salary, that gives the workers collective bargaining leverage.

The only people who benefit from keeping their income private are the wealthy.

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

#188
post #91

Every time a client makes me implement google analytics or facebook pixel code I die a little inside. And even though some actually use google ads, they have zero benefit from using analytics. I know, because I'm the one adjusting their campaigns. It's just another thing everyone does and one would be stupid not to, right, right? The lemming mentality always makes me sad because so many bad things in our society are…

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Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

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post #108

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Well, you still need some kind of backend to store the data. You can send it to a 3rd party, but then you'll run into all the same GDPR issues.

If the website is not just a static html page, there is likely a web-server with a database that can store information.

Oh, sure, but a LOT of websites are static html pages — or, at least, should be.

Re: Companies must stop using Google Analytics

#190

I only use GA because our ad provider, Mediavine, requires it

That's cool and all, but in the end, you are the end-responsible for it; you can't hide behind your ad provider if the GDPR police comes after you.

I don't care about GDPR
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